[B-Greek] Luke 24.7 rising "again"

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 14 23:39:14 EDT 2008


This, of course, is reflected in one of the most famous passages of the NT
3ἀπεκρίθη Ἰησοῦς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ·ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω σοι, ἐὰν μή τις γεννηθῇ ἄνωθεν, οὐ δύναται ἰδεῖν τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ θεοῦ.4λέγει πρὸς αὐτὸν [ὁ]Νικόδημος·πῶς δύναται ἄνθρωπος γεννηθῆναι γέρων ὤν;μὴ δύναται εἰς τὴν κοιλίαν τῆς μητρὸς αὐτοῦ δεύτερον εἰσελθεῖν καὶ γεννηθῆναι;
3 APEKRIQH IHSOUS KAI EIPEN AUTWi, "AMHN AMHN LEGW SOI, EAN MH TIS GENNHQHi ANWQEN, OU DUNATAI IDEIN THN BASILEIAN TOU QEOU.  4 LEGEI PROS AUTON [hO] NIKODHMOS, "PWS DUNATAI ANQRWPOS GENNHQHNAI GERWN WN?  MH DUNATAI EIS THN KOILIAN THS MHTROS AUTOU DEUTERON EISELQEIN KAI GENNHQHNAI?"

 
This has given rise to the common [American ?] expression of a "born-again" Christian.  It seems that even today the expression is not understood since Jesus' continuation points in a different direction from the concept of a repetition:
5ἀπεκρίθη Ἰησοῦς·ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω σοι, ἐὰν μή τις γεννηθῇ ἐξ ὕδατος καὶ πνεύματος, οὐ δύναται εἰσελθεῖν εἰς τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ θεοῦ.
5 APEKRIQH IHSOUS, "AMHN AMHN, LEGW SOI, EAN MH TIS GENNHQHi EC hUDATOS KAI PNEUMATOS, OU DUNATAI EISELQEIN EIS THN BASILEIAN TOU QEOU."george
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----- Original Message ----
From: newsgroupstuff <newsgroupstuff at gmail.com>
To: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
Cc: B Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:36:13 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Luke 24.7 rising "again"

> Would it be too much to suggest that the fundamental meaning of the  
> prefix ANA- is "up"? ANISTAMAI means "get up" -- from a sitting, or  
> reclining -- or dormant -- position. ANISTAMAI and EGEIROMAI are  
> roughly equivalent standard words for "wake up," "get up," "arise."  
> The verb is used of resurrection just as the verb KOIMAOMAI "go to  
> sleep,"  is used metaphorically of death. It is those who choose to  
> translate ANASTHNAI as "rise again" who are responsible for the  
> redundancy. There's nothing redundant in the Greek verb itself.
> 
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)

Yes, certainly ANISTAMAI is standard word for getting up, from sleep,
sitting etc.

So does ANA- ever mean "again"? Or is that a complete misunderstanding..?

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Craig Johnson
Brisbane, Australia
Blog: http://bloggledegook.blogspot.com/ 

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