Re: META, DIA in Timothy

From: roseann ekman (roseann@intellisys.net)
Date: Tue Jan 18 2000 - 15:08:41 EST


Thank you, thank you. I have had this very question on DIA vs. META for
months. Have
misplaced my notes on it and subscribed to this list to see if it would come
up. I've already been helped by someone privately and now again from this
query/answer. I have taken Beginners Greek three different times - which
allows me to use my helps somewhat and I do so appreciate this list as it
has helped me tremendously already.God bless,
Roseann Ekman
Thomas St. Church of Christ
Altus, OK

>At 9:56 AM -0500 1/18/00, Jonathan Robie wrote:
>>Does the word DIA mean in II Timothy 1:6 mean the same thing as the word
>>META in 1 Timothy 4:14? Context makes me think that the words mean the
same
>>thing, but there's also part of me that wants to read deep theological
>>significance into the differing choice of words...
>>
>>If the words really do mean the same thing, should I read agency into it,
>>or is the implied relationship weaker? What is the reasonable range of
>>meanings these prepositions might take in the given contexts?
>>
>>If the words differ, precisely how do they differ?
>
>I assume it these phrases that are 'exercising' you:
>
>2 Tim 1:6 DIA THS EPIQESEWS TWN CEIRWN MOU.
>
>1 Tim 4:14 hO EDOQH SOI DIA PROFHTEIAS META EPIQESEWS TWN CEIRWN TOU
>PRESBUTEROU.
>
>They do seem somewhat close, don't they? But I think that the sense of DIA
>in 2 Tim 1:6 is "by means of"--the very same usage as DIA PROFHTEIAS in 1
>Tim 4:14, whereas the META phrase with EPIQESEWS TWN CEIRWN + gen. in this
>particular instance seems rather to be 'accompanied by/with"--i.e. it marks
>an associated factor. While Louw and Nida do show META + genitive in a few
>instances functioning to express means (89.78), they note it as "a marker
>of means, with the probable additional implication of attendant
>circumstance" and then they point to the article 89.79, where the focus of
>META + gen. is rather "marker of circumstances which contribute
>significantly to the context of the principle event -- 'with, in.' I think
>that 89.79 is the applicable category here.
>
>
>
>Carl W. Conrad
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