[b-greek] Re: John 12:27

From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Sat Jul 28 2001 - 03:42:28 EDT


At 1:41 AM +0000 7/28/01, Mark Wilson wrote:
>NUN hH YUCH MOU TETARAKTAI KAI TI EIPW
>PATER SWSON ME EK THS hWRAS TAUTHS
>ALLA DIA TOUTO HLQON EIS THN hWRAN TAUTHN
>(Text Receptus)

I assume that the only reason you're citing this is because it has no
punctuation, not because it is the basis of the NET translation.

>Here is the NET Bible's rendition of this verse:
>
>12:27 "Now my soul is greatly distressed. And what should I say? `Father,
>deliver me from this hour'? No, but for this very reason I have come to this
>hour.
>
>Is there a grammatical principle here that suggests that
>the response to this question begins, "No..."
>
>Or, is that just understood based on common sense?

I'd say that the "No, that can't be" is implicit in the presupposition that
is actually expressed in the words immediately following ("That's the very
reason why I came to THIS HOUR.") Translation here involves a question of
how far the translator goes to make clear the author's perceived intent.
(But perhaps this discussion belongs on B-Translation). At any rate, it
seems to me that ALLA DIA TOUTO HLQON EIS THN hWRAN TAUTHN implies that the
answer to the (rhetorical) question previously posed ("Should I pray,
'Father, save me from this hour!'?") must be negative
--

Carl W. Conrad
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