Re: Re:[compost_tea] Q's: Applying Compost Tea

From: Steve Bridges <kimas_at_texasgrown.com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 23:14:35 -0500

Good questions Kevin,,,,sounds like a ton or 30 would be needed to do what
your suggesting. Some questions/observations (ok, more questions that
observations)...

It would be good to put the tea out when it is raining or the dew is heavy.
How many gallons of water in in dew? You do the figuring!

If this is an irrigated area, and the water is treated with chlorine, does
the chlorine effect the microbes your laying down (Jeff you say that
chlorine 'disappears' when sprayed,,,,proof?)?

For a soil drench, how much water does one need to wash the micro-rich tea
down into the soil (your basic question)?

BTW, nice truck, what color? Oh, and impressive math work there too.....
Steve Bridges


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From: "kevin john richardon" <kmagic_at_backpacker.com>
To: <compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:27 AM
Subject: Re:[compost_tea] Q's: Applying Compost Tea


> Howdy Pards,
>
> I am slightly embarrassed (but not really, cause I make mistakes a lot) to
have been eronious with data in my firstever letter to yall.
>
> The real numbers are (I asked a farmer; they know their stuff):
>
> 1 Acre inch = 27,154 gallons
>
> 1/8 Acre inch = 3400 gallons = .07805 / 1 sq. ft.
> it seems impracticle to equip myself to bring this volume of water with
me. I think this volume would be extremely challenging for me to spray in a
reasonable legnth of time to remain economically viable.
>
> My target application rate is 1 Acre per Hour.
>
> 1/32 Acre inch = 850 gal = .01951 gal / 1 sq.ft.
> = 14.16 gpm flow (1 Hr)
> 1/64 Acre inch = 425 gal = .00975 gal / 1 sq.ft.
> = 7.083 gpm flow (1Hr)
> Application approximate to these ratios of volume to area seem more
practicle. I believe I can configure to achieve a flow that fits my
arbitrary yet critical criterion of time.
>
> Among the questions are:
> Does application of compost tea at a ration of this volume of water
support the water requirements of the microbes? Will the application result
in desired effects? Is the volume great enough to be considered a root
drench? Would supplemental watering be necessary, immediately?
>
> Or is there equipment available (configurations) capable of putting down
more water (gpm) during application?
>
> Specifications to consider:
> *It has been suggested to me that a diaphram pump has the gentlest, least
violent action on the microbes.
>
> *The Brewing manual suggests 100 psi up to 600 psi is acceptable to
transport microbes, yet microbes should contact surfaces at no more than
20 - 80 psi.
>
> *Gallons Per Minute Flow
> *Total water Volume per Acre
>
> I am attempting to configure a Compost Tea Spraying Truck (truck specs:
2001 Chevy 2500 HD Duramax Diesel (454 cu.in., 6.0 turbo), Alison 5 speed
Transmission, 6.5 ft. box, 3200lbs. payload; 12000 lbs. tow capacity) with
Hand operated wand-type spraying as well as boom operated spraying
capabilities.
>
> Seems like a trailer may need to be considered to enter system
configurations to meet water demands.
>
> I would also like to explore possibilities of incorporating a
proportionate pump.
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration, everyone.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Kevin John Richardson
> Local Solutions
> (907) 317 8455
> kmagic_at_backpacker.com
>
>
> On 28 May 2003 01:00:44 -0000 kevin john richardon <kmagic_at_backpacker.com>
wrote:
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> <tt>
> Hello All,
> <BR>
>
> <BR>
> I am about to apply compost tea for clients and have specific questions
about the application of compost tea, to which specific answers would be
greatly appreciated.&nbsp; My contact information is included at the end of
this transmission; if anyone would like, I would welcome an opportunity to
discuss on the telephone or via e-mail outside of the group setting.&nbsp;
Although this format suggests the sharing of info so we can all benefit, I
do not want to hamper the group with my legnthy deliberations.&nbsp; So, at
your descretion, does anyone have any facts about the following:
> <BR>
>
> <BR>
> * When applying compost tea to turf in a root drench application, 15 Gal.
per acre is the suggested ratio.&nbsp; Is this adequate or does the amount
of tea need to be increased to account for aspects of the processes of
transfering the tea between containers with pumps, applying... The tea has
tested with great numbers yet, I am considering doubling, tripling,
quadrupaling this ratio to garuntee desired ranges are maintained not to
mention expectations are met and customers are satified..&nbsp;
Necessary?&nbsp; I know once I get started, testing my product at the
spraying nozzle at the end of the day will produce an answer, but I am
attempting to be as thorough in my planning as possible.
> <BR>*******this part is wrong!!!!!!!!_at_#$%^&**************
> * When applying compost tea to turf (root drench), how much water should
be used in order to apply?&nbsp; I am figuring 2 Gal. per 1000 square feet
(sq.').&nbsp; This is like spraying a 1/32 inch (&quot;) water column on a
flat surface.&nbsp; Is this enough water in a root drench application to
turf?&nbsp; Bob Norsen suggests that turf is not flat, so the surfaces of
the grass blades may need to be accounted for, because the surfaces will
account for a subtraction from that water column volume.&nbsp; 4 Gal. per
1000 sq.' = 1/16&quot; water column, 6 Gal. = 1/8&quot;, etc...
> <BR>*Sorry for conveying false info!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
> * Anyone have experience configuring a spray truck?&nbsp; Lots of
variables.&nbsp; Sounded like fun to begin with, Now it is becoming some
what distressing, kinda feel like I am drowning (pun intended) in
specifications &amp; #s.&nbsp; Helpful advice, pitfalls to avoid, &quot;If I
had it to do all over again&quot;... much appreciated.&nbsp; Info on systems
ready to buy, or parts such as pumps, compressors, liquid volume tanks,
aeration, transformers vs. gas engines vs. PTO (by the way I will be using a
2001 Chevy 2500 HD Duramax Diesel, Allison Tranny with a 6.5' box in the
back, payload 3200 Lbs.)
> <BR>
> * I have been told not to brew tea with Chlorinated water; how about
diluting with it?&nbsp; I don't know if I have got time to wait around for
Chlorinated water to &quot;de-gas&quot;.&nbsp; The options seem to be:
dilute with chlorinated H2O, Buy a dechlorinization unit ( anyone know about
this?), run back and forth between jobs for water from my well or haul water
around with me.
> <BR>
>
> <BR>
> Thanks yall, I am being booted from the computer lab!&nbsp; Ile be in
touch; please&nbsp; be gracious with your knowledge
> <BR>
>
> <BR>
> Regards,
> <BR>
>
> <BR>
> Kevin John Richardson
> <BR>
> Local Solutions, Anc, AK
> <BR>
>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> Kevin John Richardson
> <BR>
> 19025 Villages Scenic Pkwy
> <BR>
> Anchorage, AK 99516
> <BR>
> (907) 317-8455
> <BR>
> kmagic_at_backpacker.com<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
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