Re: [compost_tea] ACT Test

From: Robert Norsen <bnbrew_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:13:26 -0700 (PDT)

Ray Gore great idea.
Centrally located Kirkland where the last ICTC confrence was held has the exact facility to do what you suggest. Central between Alaska and Vermont. They have a many acre green house where we could even do this in winter. they would welcome some added use with some income of a facility that is under financed. Our government is saving money at the expense of our people.
 
I was thinking that we do the testing at our individual locations for economic reasons. The results can be good both ways. But we could develop much better PR if we did it en-mass with invited writers to publish lots of news about ACT. Maybe the PR is in the end the most important contribution such an event would have. Within the List we are preaching to the choir.
 
Did any of you watch 60 minute Sunday evening? What Monsanto did to that little town in Alabama? I wish 60 minutes would do a like number on what Monsanto and others in that business are doing to agriculture world wide. Probably far more damage on a far larger scale but nearly invisible to the world public. Protected in an equal way. Our EPA proteced Monsanto instead of the people and the ecology of that region. Bob


ray gore <xrg22000_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
I believe that we should all meet in a few strategic
areas that have a campground and 110, set up and brew
for a couple of days, record the methods of brewing
with a clipboard on ea machine to tell the ingredients
and brew times and if its near someones area do some
field trips. Have flatbed trl and four diff machines
and willing to travel? Ray G, EPM 500,Gwg Sols
Modified,MVC 500 and 35G
--- Robert Norsen <bnbrew_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> Judy, Hi! You ask good questions. Even AH is not
> 'standard'. Jeff might be able to blend a standard
> by mixing one sample well then dividing that into
> pacs for the test. Then the quantity of AH and
> standard nutrients per volume of tea generated
> would need to be adjusted by the operator -( Honor
> system ! ) along with a standard type and quatity
> of nutrients related to gallons of ACT generated,
> Then we need a half dozen or more users of each type
> brewer to make the tests. Temp and water quality
> and nutrient quality and type and make of brewer
> and O2 condition if possible ahould all be reported
> in detail on a standard form.
>
> The objective needs to be definesd as a way to
> devlop a list of brewers with proven performance
> rather than a contest to see which one will get the
> highers numbers. That type contest would lead to bad
> press for many good machines.
>
> I think we don't want it to be like the Olympics
> where a dozen or more contestants drawn from
> thousands of expert athletes compete to isolate ONE
> of that dozen who gets ALL the recognition while in
> fact all were expert. Our service to the EARTH
> would be better if we end up with many proven
> performers.
>
> How can a broad acceptance of good machines be
> achieved? Maybe instead of postingt the results as
> numbers it would be useful to post the results a "
> achieving a qualifying score" : Cum Luade ?
>
> ( Much as I would like to see the actual numbers I
> think hard numerical results might be misleading and
> might unfairly penalize many very effective
> machines. )
> And besides that BobO probably can't handle the
> entire market. Grin .
> Ok I stuck my neck out who will stomp on it? Other
> concepts? Bob
>
> Judi Stewart <js_at_olympus.net> wrote:
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> Jeff, thanks for that good news. Now we have a
> standard compost.
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> What are the next steps?
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> What will be the standard recipe for the size of the
> machine, temperature, etc.?
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> Should ingredients be determined by SFI?
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> Should compost amounts be determined by SFI or the
> manufacturer of the brewer?
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> Which one of you will take the lead and put this
> shebang together? (I imagine there
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> would be e-mails off-list in handling this.)
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> Who out there is willing to participate in testing?
> Lurkers are needed and wanted.
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> How many are participating and which brewers are
> included?
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> If the brewer manufacturers are not on this list
> will they be contacted to join the test?
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> Judi
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Lowenfels [mailto:jeff_at_gardener.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 7:27 PM
> To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Re: ACT
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> If SFI does the testing, we will throw in the Alaska
> Humus as the compost to use......
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> Cheers,
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> Jeff
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> www.alaskahumus.com
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