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Re: Driving Pet Peeves



KP (batten@newsserver.rdcs.Kodak.COM) wrote:

:   Wrong in many ways. If a fool comes blasting down the road and rams into you
: he stands every bit as much chance of being injured as he would if he hit 
: a deer. Its not uncommon for them critters to come flying through the     
: windshield.. BUT, there are other ways of suffering damage. EVEN if you are

Are you seriously complaining that bicyclists are endangering "a fool
[who] comes blasting down the road and rams into" them because they may
then come through the windshield and cause injury?  Can you cite a
single incident of a motorist being injured in this way, or are you
just making this up?

: in the wrong (I know thats impossible because ONLY car drivers can be in the
: wrong.. right?) if the police blotter says the bicycle was completely at fault,
: all witnesses say the biker was at fault, the BICYCLST says he was at fault,
: guess who gets to pay the medical bills. Guess who stands the chance of getting

Okay, I'll guess - not the motorist.  If you can cite a single instance
in which all interested parties and witnesses agree that the cyclist is
at fault, but the motorist is forced to pay the cyclist's medical
views, I will admit that my guess was wrong.  Otherwise, I will claim
you are just setting up another straw-man argument.

: sued... guess who's insurance gets jacked up... and if the biker is killed...

Your insurance will also go up if you hit an automobile whose driver is
completely in the wrong.

: guess who not only suffers all the above but also stands the chance of loosing
: their license, or at a min. being harrassed by the state for several years
: and forced to take periodic driving tests for no reason.  

Your opinion, then, is that being forced to take a driving test merely 
for killing a cyclist constitutes harassment?

:   I'm not saying this is gosple in all states, but.. from what I've been told,
: while a biker is to be treated like any other vehicle on the road, when they
: are in an accident they are treated as a pedistian. From personal experience

I don't know what a "pedistian" is.  Do you mean "pedestrian"?

: I know what our state says about auto vs. pedistrian accidents, even when 
: as stated above EVERY one says there was no way possible for the auto to avoid
: the accident and it was 100% the pedestrians fault.  From the experience of
: my ex neighbors mother I know what the results are if the pedistrian in a 
: situation like above is unfortunately killed.

Well, don't leave us in suspense.  What does your state say?  I assume
you mean, "as expressed in its laws", rather than "as expressed in the
general opinion of your friends".  And what are the results of such an
accident?

:				.. even if all car drivers became 100% good 
: drivers who were totally respectful of the bikers, many of the bikers would
: still find something to complain about...

Try us.

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Ken Ferschweiler                         Internet: kennino@cs.orst.edu
Department of Computer Science
Oregon State University


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