Respected sri Sadagopan swamin and Dear sri Senthil,
First of all many thanks to sri Sadagopan swamin for forwarding this
post to me for my comments. Before offering comments I will give some
portions of earlier mails. It was forming part of the "Ordeal by
fire" discussion, which was there in the lists in 2004. What I am
doing here is to cut and paste some portions of mails.
From: Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta [acharyatvsr@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: [SriRangaSri] The issue of Sita Piraatti's agni pravesam
Dear Sriman Sadagopan, I have been following the informative and
excellent exchanges on this subject. Permit me to participate in the
debate. In Sundara kandam there is one sentence uttered by Sita
Piratti to Hanuman in the Asoka Vanam. She says, "maamaiva Dushkrutam
kinchin mahadasti na samsaya:". It is said that here Sita Piratti is
in the role of a Jeevathma and Siriya Tiruvadigal, Hanuman assumes
the role of an Acharya. Seeta Piratti says that She should have
committed a small (kinchit) or a big (mahat) aparadham (dushkrutam)
definitely some time. Otherwise why would Lord Rama forsake Her for
such a long time without coming to Her rescue, immediately? He could
easily rescue Her if He wanted to. For Her sake He even released the
Brahmasthram on a crow, an insignificant being. He could make the
entire Srushti vanish and recreate it in a Truti (may be even smaller
than a nano second). How could he condone the gross misbehavior of
Ravana?
Acharyas comment that a Jeevathma commits many mistakes some of which
are unforgivable. Even the Lord who is Mercy Personified acts cruelly
when he finds that the Jeevathma has committed such a gross mistake.
This will be mitigated with the active interception of the Divine
Mother and the Acharya on behalf of the Jeevathma after the Jeevathma
repents for its follies.
Apparently at some time Seeta Piratti made fun of Lord Rama when He
wanted to leave for the forest alone without Seeta Piratti. She
alludes that Lord Rama might be a napunsaka, if He were to leave Her
behind. This is Bhagavat Apacharam. But this is only a Pranaya
Kalaham between the Divine Mother and the Lord. This is even
forgivable. But when the unblemished Lakshmana who
· had sacrificed so much in order to accompany the Lord and His
consort
· to serve them,
· refuses to leave Her alone
· when She ordered Him to go to the rescue of his brother
· when they hear Maricha's impersonated voice of Lord Rama
calling their names in distress
· when raama released and buried a fatal arrow into the
Rakshasa in the form of golden deer,
Sita Piratti hurls some very cruel and uncalled for insulting words
at Lakshmana.
According to Poorva Acharyas this is tantamount to Bhaagavata
Apacharam, which the Paramaathama will never condone. He will never
forgive any Apacharam committed against His Bhaktas or Bhaagavathaas.
This is the reason He (the Paramaathma as Lord Rama) allows Sita
Piratti (the Jeevathma) to suffer untold miseries in Lanka (Jeevathma
suffers miseries in the Mruthyu Lokas) and then again hurls the
unutterable insults at the Divine Mother Sita Piratti in everyone's
presence and asks Her to undergo the "ordeal by fire" to show His
anger against the insults She heaped on Ramanuja or Lakshmana, the
quintessential Devotee of the Lord. This sentence "maamaiva
Dushkrutam kinchin mahad asthi na samsayaha" is spoken to Hanuman
earlier in the Asoka Vanam, when He meets and tries to console the
Divine Mother. It is spoken to Hanuman who is in the role of an
Acharya according to Ramayana Rahasya arthas or commentaries by our
Poorva Acharyas.
I got this from an excellent book written by Ubhaya Vedantha Acharya
Sriman Sree bhashyam Appalaacharya Swamin who was a Sanskrit
Professor in the Andhra University at Vizag. ---- Ramanujam Varada
Srinivasa Thatta.
MGV adds - So what sri senthil has written in his article is more or
less same point as stated here. Another quote on the same subject ?
From: Narender Reddy [reddynp@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] the issue of Sita Piraatti's agni pravesam
Yes, I have attended discourses by U.V. Sriman Sri Bahsyam
Appalacharya Swamy where he has given an illustrious analogy that
ravana can be compared to the mind, Sri Sita Devi to the athma, Sri
Hanuman to Acharya, and Sri Rama to Paramathma. Ravana with his 10
heads can be compared to the mind with 10 senses (5 inner senses and
5 outer senses). There is only one purusha Sriman naryanan, and we
jivathmas are His property. We are like His pathnis. The mind stole
the athma (at least attention) away from the paramathma. Now,
Paramthma 1st sends an acharya. After expressing sharanagathi through
the acharya saying that Sriman Narayan is the only means, Paramathma
comes and destroys the obstacles (Ravana) and gives Moksha.
Dhasan
Vasudevan m.g.
PS: more in next post.
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