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DEar ms.nappinnai, I am only trying to highlight the ramanuja philosphy which 
is an extension of AzhwAr's arulich-cheyal. It may be true that jEyar swAmi 
might have delivered this message in a different context and to a different 
audience. I presume that at least this forum-ramanuja digest- should be 
naturally addressed towards srEvaishNavites who basically believe in 
thirumandhiram rather than shAsthrAs. People who believe in shAshtrAs-strive to 
do something fort attaining whatever they want. People who believe in 
thirumandhiram wait for His rescue.They want Him rather than anything. Hence, I 
presume that ramanuja digest is focussing on ramanuja philosophy.

In this regard I recall one AzhwAr's works : " ninnayE thAn vEndi, nEL selvam 
vEndAdhAn thannaiyE, thAn vENdum selvam pOl....ninnayE thAn vENdi niRpan 
adiyEAnE"
PerumAL thiru-mozhi 5-8 , thiru-voi-mozhi "kaLaivAi thunbam,kaLaiyAdhozhivAi, 
kaLaikaN maRRilEAn" 5-8-8
and
AchArya Hridhayam-sUthram 14,15 which deals with reasons for having kept other 
types of ends-like materialsitic desires, attacking the enemies or kaivalyam- 
and 17 to 21 where the difference between prapannan and others are dealt with. 
Hope this clarifies the position.
vAnamAmalai padmanAbhan





Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:
Dear Sri Padmanabhan,
With the blessings of and interactions with bhAgavathAs like 
you I am trying to understand SVB and other works. Sri PiLLai 
lOkAcAryA clearly and concisely presents,in SVB 243(last aphorism of 
second prakaraNa),the code of conduct to be followed by the "well 
informed" prapanna to whom the Lord is the siddhOpAya(means and the 
end rolled into one):a prapanna shall not pray for his own well being 
which is actually Lord's sole concern and instead indulge in self-
less love of God(&His devotees)and solicit His well being(have 
omitted many other conducts to be followed). There are many people
(non-prapannas)who approach Sri Jeeyar swami and they may not be 
aware that Lord is the means and the end. I'm guessing that in this 
context HH might have suggested these as a starting point towards 
prapatti. Initially I used to chant gadya trayam without 
knowing "ANY" meaning but then EmperumAnAr's choice of words itself 
was so exhilarating that I was getting restless and wanted to know 
the meaning and would ask whoever I bumped into,if they knew the 
meaning and would supply me the same. This is my personal experience.
Kindly request Sri Ramakrishna to clarify in what context our Sri 
Jeeyar swami suggested that. Please correct me if I said anything 
wrong.

AzhvAr EmperumAnAr JIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
NC Nappinnai 

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "padmanabhan" <aazhwar@xxxx> wrote:
> Dear srEvaishNavites,
> stars and slOkas-vishNu sahasra-
nAmam
> It is good to foster chanting of vishNu sahasra-namam. I do not 
understand
> the concept of correlating stars to chanting. The purpose of 
chanting is for
> chanting and not for any benefit. Kindly clarify. Does it not run 
contrary
> to our principles?
> vAnamAmalai padmanAbhan



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