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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

Respected Madam,

>Conciously but unintentionally there is some happiness 
> produced in me when I do kaimkaryam(be it chanting some prabandham 
> or a thought about Ramanuja or other purvAchAryas). Has anyone 
> experienced the same? Is it avoidable or can it be avoided and how?

Your question is indeed one of the popular questions that is faced by 
our Sampradayam. But there is an interesting answer to it too. If you 
read your above statements again, after you read my "small brain's" 
understanding/explanation, you would be surprised.

The term "you" etc henceforth refers to a general second person. 
Kindly do not take it literally.

a) The goal should be that, one should do the kainkaryam for HIS 
pleasure.
b) The goal should not be the pleasure that one derives out of a 
kainkaryam.

Now if you read your statements again, you would find that, if you 
get happiness out of a kainkaryam, it is a mere consequence. If you 
intended to achieve that happiness through kainkaryam, then it is 
treated as a "selfish" attitude. But if the mindset is to make him 
happy and in that process if you become happy, it is not wrong. The 
difference is so subtle - it is INTENT vs CONSEQUENCE. This is the 
speciality of our sampradayam. In point A, your happiness would be a 
mere consequence. In point B, it is the happiness that you wanted, 
which is wrong. This is why our sampradayam is so easy to follow and 
so practical:)

My humble apologies for any mistakes or misinformation.

Yatheendra Pravanam Vandhe RAMYA Jaamaatharam Munim

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,
Lakshmi Narasimhan

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "nappinnai_nc <nappinnai_nc@xxxx>" 
<nappinnai_nc@xxxx> wrote:
> Sri:
> Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:
> Dear Smt Sumithra,
> Humble pranams to you. I always enjoy your articles as 
they 
> are attached to Parthasarathy. Your statements "for our mental 
> satisfaction" and "any kainkaryam is for his pleasure" seem 
> contradictory to me(maybe I misread your thoughts). Even parents 
> have "little" expectation! But He does not have "any" expectation.
> It is only expectations that cause unhappiness. You yourself had 
> written that "parents never get happy...". 
> 
> It is easier to develop mental cleaniliness in "upAyam" 
than 
> in "upEyam(service to the Lord)". Meaning while doing kaimkaryam,we 
> should not derive any happiness. Personally I had never been 
> successful. Conciously but unintentionally there is some happiness 
> produced in me when I do kaimkaryam(be it chanting some prabandham 
or 
> a thought about Ramanuja or other purvAchAryas). Has anyone 
> experienced the same? Is it avoidable or can it be avoided and how?
> 
> AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE sharaNam
> NC Nappinnai
> 
> 
> 
> >Of course, we cannot do anything equal to the amount of krupai he 
> >showers on us nor does he expects any but it is for our mental 
> >satisfaction and also to make him happy we have to take care of 
our 
> >divya desams and abhimana stalams. Can we leave our mother and 
> >father without good clothing, food etc and live happily? Our 
> >parents never get happy with just the money we send, they surely 
> >want us to be with them and do service to them. Similarly we 
should 
> >not just stop with contributing money for the kainkaryams in the 
> >divya desams but should visit the perumals and make them happy 
with 
> >our kainkaryams. Any kainkaryam is for his pleasure and not for 
our 
> >happiness. That is the bottomline of our sampradayam.




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