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--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, rajan s <rajan_ramaswamy@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> Dear All 
>  
> The concept of paratantriam is expalined by Thondar adipodi Azhwar 
in his Thirumalai, 38th pasuram which is as follows.This is the core 
pasuram of Thirumalai.
>  
> >  
> Memporul pogavittu--Keeping aside concept of moksha and all that( 
Memporul-moksham)
>  
> Meymaiyai  migavunarndhu---understanding the nature of Sriman 
Narayana(meymai- The Lord)
>  
> Ambarisu arindhukondu---knowing the real aim of life (ambarisu-
kainkaryam)
>  
> Aimbulan agathatakki---controlling the five senses
>  
> Kambara Thalai siraithu---giving up all ego
>  
> Un kadaitalai irunthu ---residing in your vicinity
>  
> Vazum sombarai--- the real paratantrins( sombar- people of such 
nature)

The real lazy people, who do not make any efforts, but reside close 
to you, by realizing their SEshatvam with the thought that it is by 
your grace (hence no ego). What a wonderful pASuram? I missed reading 
it when I replied to you previously.

Dear Sriman Rajan, all these pASurams are wonderful examples of 
SEshtvam, pAratantryam etc. They have to be learnt only from the 
learned. Perhaps that is why maNavALa mAmunigaL stresses on AchArya 
sambandham,as AchArya makes us realize our natural SEsha-SEshi 
sambadnham.

Dasanudasan
Vishnu

> Ugathi polum----you seem to like these people
>  
> Soozh punal arangathane---- God  Ranganatha
>  
> The free will or the swatantriam of the soul is thus surrendered as 
sung by the Azhwar.
>  
> The paratantriam is a state of mind.
>  
>  
> Adiyen Ramanujadasan
>  
> Soundararajan
>  
> Azhwar Emberumanar Jeeyar thiruvadigale sharanam.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> Lakshmi Narasimhan <nrusimhann@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well,
> We have independence(swa). Using that independence(swa), if we give 
> up that very independence then that is pAratantryam(dependencde).
> adiyen,
> rAmAnuja dAsan
> 
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