Dear Swamin,
adiyEn's answers to selective questions:
Q: How can the same jeevathma simultaneously exist in the form of
two chiranjeevis.?
Please refer to chith prakaranam in mumukshuppadi. It clearly
mentions that one jeevaathma may exists with multiple bodies at the
same time.
Q: Secondly since the dwarabalakas returned to vaikuntam after the
third birth the muni kumara could not attain moksha?
Was the episode happening in Sri Vaikuntam? From what I know, this
episode happened in Thirupparkadal (Vyuham) which is in the Leela
Vibhuthi. One rational explanation to justify this would be that no
munikumara, why munikumara, no komban:) can enter Sri Vaikuntam just
like that with the mortal body. The dwarabalakas simply returned
back to Thirupparkadal, that is all, I guess.
Q:Thirdly why did the dwarabalakas take up the form of kshatria
mortals instead of asuras in the third birth?
In fact, Ravana and Kumbakarna were not kshatrias - they were born
for a Brahmana in the lineage of sage Pulastya(his son paulastya,
his son vaisrava, his son vaisranava etc)?!
Moreover, Asuramsam is a quality and is not a VARNAM. It is
sometimes attained by a curse too.
So all the three brothers were Brahmanas, but two of them as pre-
destined, acquired / possessed asura qualities and Vibheeshana was
the left out one, who, being born as a Brahmana, had no reason not
to be a Vishnu Bhakta.
In fact Ravana's sister Shoorpanaka also had asuramsam. Who would
have been she? ;)
adiyEn,
rAmAnuja dAsan
--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rajagopalan Narayan
<rajagopalannarayan@...> wrote:
>
> Although all 3 brothers were asuras why was Vibishana different
from his brothers and was a vishnu bhaktha? I had posed this doubt
to several upanyaskas and got a convincing answer from
sri.chakravarthy iyengar.
> Since sanathkumara cursed the dwarabalakas to be born on earth
for no crime commited and only following their duties Lord Naryana
punished the munikumara to suffer a similar fate ,to be born with
the dwarabalakas. The difference was that the two as per their
erquest were sworn enemies of the Lord while the munikumara
remained a Baktha. THis was vibishana and he was prahalada in the
previous birth and akroora in the next birth. I undrstand the basis
for this is found in Vishnudarma.
> This led to another doubt-Both vibishana and prahalada are
chiranjeevis. How can the same jeevathma simultaneously exist in
the form of two chiranjeevis.?
> Secondly since the dwarabalakas returned to vaikuntam after the
third birth the muni kumara could not attain moksha?
> Thirdly why did the dwarabalakas take up the form of kshatria
mortals instead of asuras in the third birth?Adiyens ignorance be
kindly pardoned by the members of the forum. dasan-narayanan
> Sri Narayandesikaya Namah
>
>
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