SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA According to gaudiya vaishnavism,GOLOKA is the most superior part of VAIKUNTAM which has no scriptural sanction.They might be saying this because they consider MAADURYA BHAVAM(NAYIKA- NAYAKA ) to be superior to other bhavams like vatsalya,sakhya,dasya & shanta. Generally SRI KRISHNA rupam is considered more apt for MADURYA BHAVAM as seen in the lives of GOPIKAS,NAMMALVAR,TIRUMANGAI MANNAN,MIRABAI,SRI CHAITANYA MAHAPRABHU. DASAN On Thu, 12 May 2005 Narender Reddy wrote : >Gnyanandamayam DEvam nirmal spatikAkrithim >AAdhAram sarva vidyanam Sri Hayagrivam upAsmahE! > >Jai Sriman Narayana! > >I think both might be right. Sriman Narayana is SriKrishna and Sri Krishna is >Sriman Narayana. >In Pramapadam (Sri Vaikuntam), He is Sriman Narayana when in koluvu (sabha) >and Sri Krishna when playing. > >Our Acharyas often refer to this paramapada nathan as Para Vasudevam. > >He is Narayana [ Narayana ParaBrhama sarva kArana kAranam..]. He is Sri >Krishna [Brahmanyo Devakee Puro...]. > >This pramapadam (Sri Vaikntam) is the nithya vibhoothi or Parmanent abode. >There is also a Sri Vaikuntam in the leela vibhoothi (Gajendra rakshan came >form here), and Sanaka, Sanandadi brothers visited this. In addition, there >has been a mention of the creation of Vaikunta planet in our universe, by Sri >Vikunta (an incarnation of Lord Sriman Narayana). > >While Sriman Narayana and Sri Krishna are one and the same original >persanality, the Goloka Vrindavanam mentioned in Bramha samhitha appears to be >in the svetha dweepam (an island) in the midst of viraja river which seprates >the Nithya vibhoothi and leela vibhoothi. However, Krishna may be also >playing with go-gopikas in the nithya vibhoothi Sri Vaikuntam. > >Thus, THERE IS NO CONFLICT between the two segments of the Vaishnava >community. He is beyond the Vedas. > >With all glories to Lord Sri Venkateswara, I remain, > >SIncerely >Narender Reddy > >Vasan Sriranga Chari <vasan_chari_hk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA >As per vedic scriptures Sriman Narayana is the paratvam. Sri Nammalvar says >in his TIRUVAIMOZHI that sriman Narayana HIMSELF came as Sri Krishna with HIS >power & glory intact.ANGU VAITU ENGU PIRANDA PIRAN.Hence unlike some of His >other avatarams ,Sri Krishnavataram is a poornavataram. >Srimad Bhagvatam says KRISHNASTU BHAGVAN SWAYAM.The goudiya people have >interpreted this sentence to mean that SriKrishna is not a avataram OF Sriman >Narayana. >Also Jayadeva sings in his GEETA GOVINDAM that Krishna took all the other >avatarams. >As far as we srivaishnavites are concerned, krishna is the greatest avatara of >SRIMAN NARAYANA where all His glories were explicit. >dasan > > >On Tue, 10 May 2005 Janaki & Sampath Kumar wrote : > >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > >Srimathe Vedhantha Desikaya Namaha > >Srimath VaraVara Munaye Namaha > > > >Respected Sri Vaishnava Baghavathas > > > >Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan Sampath Kumar. This is my first question in this > >scholarly forum. > > > >In our SriVaishnava Sidhantham it is established that Sriman Narayanan > >residing in Vaikunta Lokam is parathvam and Krishna is avatharam > >(Vibhavam) of Sriman Narayanan and Krishna is an expansion of Sriman > >Narayanan. However, there are other schools of Vaishnavism (especially > >Gaudia Vaishnavism) which staunchly advocate that Krishna is the > >parathvam and Narayanan is a subform of Krishna. Even though both > >these schools accept Sriman Narayanan and Krishna, why this > >fundamental difference arise and which is correct? > > > >Kindly accept adiyen's appologies if my question is inappropriate. > > > >Adiyen > > > >Ramanuja Dasan > > > >Sampath Kumar... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! 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