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  SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA
According to gaudiya vaishnavism,GOLOKA is the most superior part of VAIKUNTAM 
which has no scriptural sanction.They might be saying this because they 
consider MAADURYA BHAVAM(NAYIKA- NAYAKA ) to be superior to other bhavams like 
vatsalya,sakhya,dasya & shanta. Generally SRI KRISHNA rupam is considered more 
apt for MADURYA BHAVAM as seen in the lives of GOPIKAS,NAMMALVAR,TIRUMANGAI 
MANNAN,MIRABAI,SRI CHAITANYA MAHAPRABHU.
DASAN 


On Thu, 12 May 2005 Narender Reddy wrote :
>Gnyanandamayam DEvam nirmal spatikAkrithim
>AAdhAram sarva vidyanam Sri Hayagrivam upAsmahE!
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>Jai Sriman Narayana!
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>I think both might be right. Sriman Narayana is SriKrishna and Sri Krishna is 
>Sriman Narayana.
>In Pramapadam (Sri Vaikuntam), He is Sriman Narayana when in koluvu (sabha) 
>and Sri Krishna when playing.
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>Our Acharyas often refer to this paramapada nathan as Para Vasudevam.
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>He is Narayana [ Narayana ParaBrhama sarva kArana kAranam..]. He is Sri 
>Krishna [Brahmanyo Devakee Puro...].
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>This pramapadam (Sri Vaikntam) is the nithya vibhoothi or Parmanent abode. 
>There is also a Sri Vaikuntam in the leela vibhoothi (Gajendra rakshan came 
>form here), and Sanaka, Sanandadi brothers visited this.  In addition, there 
>has been a mention of the creation of Vaikunta planet  in our universe, by Sri 
>Vikunta (an incarnation of Lord Sriman Narayana).
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>While Sriman Narayana and Sri Krishna are one and the same original 
>persanality, the Goloka Vrindavanam mentioned in Bramha samhitha appears to be 
>in the svetha dweepam (an island) in the midst of viraja river which seprates 
>the Nithya vibhoothi and leela vibhoothi.  However, Krishna may be also 
>playing with go-gopikas in the nithya vibhoothi Sri Vaikuntam.
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>Thus, THERE IS NO CONFLICT between the two segments of the Vaishnava 
>community. He is beyond the Vedas.
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>With all glories to Lord Sri Venkateswara, I remain,
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>SIncerely
>Narender Reddy
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>Vasan Sriranga Chari <vasan_chari_hk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA
>As per vedic scriptures  Sriman Narayana is the paratvam. Sri Nammalvar says 
>in his TIRUVAIMOZHI that sriman Narayana HIMSELF came as Sri Krishna with  HIS 
>power & glory intact.ANGU VAITU ENGU PIRANDA PIRAN.Hence unlike some of  His 
>other avatarams ,Sri Krishnavataram is a poornavataram.
>Srimad Bhagvatam says KRISHNASTU BHAGVAN SWAYAM.The goudiya people have 
>interpreted this sentence to mean that SriKrishna is  not a avataram OF Sriman 
>Narayana.
>Also Jayadeva sings in his GEETA GOVINDAM that Krishna took all the other 
>avatarams.
>As far as we srivaishnavites are concerned, krishna is the greatest avatara of 
>SRIMAN NARAYANA where all His glories were explicit.
>dasan
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>On Tue, 10 May 2005 Janaki & Sampath Kumar wrote :
> >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha
> >Srimathe Vedhantha Desikaya Namaha
> >Srimath VaraVara Munaye Namaha
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> >Respected Sri Vaishnava Baghavathas
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> >Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan Sampath Kumar. This is my first question in this
> >scholarly forum.
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> >In our SriVaishnava Sidhantham it is established that Sriman Narayanan
> >residing in Vaikunta Lokam is parathvam and Krishna is avatharam
> >(Vibhavam) of Sriman Narayanan and Krishna is an expansion of Sriman
> >Narayanan. However, there are other schools of Vaishnavism (especially
> >Gaudia Vaishnavism) which staunchly advocate that Krishna is the
> >parathvam and Narayanan is a subform of Krishna. Even though both
> >these schools accept Sriman Narayanan and Krishna, why this
> >fundamental difference arise and which is correct?
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> >Kindly accept adiyen's appologies if my question is inappropriate.
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> >Adiyen
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> >Ramanuja Dasan
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