[compost_tea] Pushing AACT forward;weed control:was Re: dirty filters

From: dkemnitz2000 <dkemnitz2000_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:03:31 -0000

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bosko" <mjbosko_at_j...> wrote:
> <>><>I disced too soon didn't I. I should have waited 'til the
> protozoa went to sleep (soil temp around 45F) assuming the weeds
> stayed green 'til that time. That would be the only way to prevent
> the bacterial bloom that is happening now.. I will be losing NO3
> right? OR wrong? The only way to control bacterial bloom would be
> control temperature, moisture,nutrients and oxygen. The only one I
> could or would want to modify would be temp.So the answer is to disc
> in green matter when soil is around 45F. Volunteer wheat would work
> perfect in November and then rotate to row crops the next year. What
> happens to green matter disced in the ground in November at 45F 'til
> ground warms up next spring? Dennis
>
>
> [Mike says:]
> Great post Dennis. I have a section too that I have been wanting
to get out
> and disc the weeds under. I have some oats planted in there now
too (my
> weed companion crop -grin) - as I was going to use them as a cover
crop for
> some garlic. But the rest of the field has a good green weed
population. I
> had been mowing them just before seedset - except for those low
growers that
> my mower couldn't reach (darnit).
>

Isn't it amazing they can seed after mowing, even after several
mowings and drought thrown in too. I'm thinking about the brown
iceberg lettuce in the frig trying to answer "what happens to the
greens (disced at 45F)'til ground warms in the spring?" Dennis




> But I've been holding back on discing, and was considering doing it
this
> weekend. It seems, following Dr E's response, that discing just
after the
> warm weather trades off for the winter temps would be a great time
to disc
> the weeds under. Then I suspect laying down a drench of AACT to
decompose
> the OG over the winter would be a benifit. When the weather warms,
the
> predators wake and go to work adding the N when needed most (for my
garlic
> anyway). I'm liking this.
>
<><<><><<><><<>I like to disc in green covers or weeds although I
think I'm going to try to use covercrops in the future instead of
weeds. I'd been avoiding seed costs using weeds. Today I planted
hairy vetch on the melon patch hoping it will be vined by may 15 so I
can clip it for mulch and transplant melons anywhere I want. Dennis




> Dr E., being that we're talking about discing weeds (green)
wouldn't that
> make the bacteria the most important consumer over the fungi? As
the fungi
> go for the brown stuff, bacteria the green. I realize that given
plants
> require specific B:F ratios - but for this purpose a B dominant
brew seems
> best?
>
> Mike


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