[compost_tea] Re: Correction

From: hi_yield1 <hi_yield1_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:29:48 -0000

John,
Have you ever bought something and had to put it together yourself?
Throwing the instructions away before hand. Big mistake right. Knowing
the steps and the catalyst involved are important. Where do you think
  those modern world miracles of science came from. Data and science
is what SFI and members of this forum are constantly calling for. Now
it's not important?? Please let's make up our minds. Take care
H_yield1.

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "John Cowan" <vivax_at_n...> wrote:
> The single factor analysis approach usually does not apply to the
REAL
> world. Hasn't that been the major Achilles heal of modern thinking?
Are we
> going to start testing somehow the many thousands of bacteria,
fungi, etc
> that exist in the natural environment?
>
> Who cares what we can do in some contrived artificial environment?
Measure
> away! How is this going to help in the real world? Biological
> agriculture/horticulture is not as tenuous as you seem to be
implying. I
> know of a number of farms around the world that get very good
results using
> biological methods. Of course, that does not mean that you or
somebody else
> would get similar same results in the same locations or using the
same
> materials or tools. It is a nurturing process that has to be
creatively
> applied because the real world is not controlled only influenced.
>
> I got unmistakably outstanding results from using my compost tea
this year
> for the first time. This was not a slight improvement or a fluke of
the
> weather. I live in the high desert. It was not until August that I
got my
> tea making act together. I applied it to vegetables that were
already on the
> decline yet I got some of the best quality and production ever in
20+ yrs.
> of growing vegetables right up to frost.
>
> John Cowan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hi_yield1 [mailto:hi_yield1_at_y...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:38 PM
> To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [compost_tea] Re: Correction
>
>
> John,
> Yes those are all right for the field. What I'm referring to is a
> process whereby outside environmental factors do not play a role.
> Stomatal responce is greatly infueanced by weather conditions and
> polluants in the air. What is the net photosynthesis and dark
> respiration, CO2 fixation of CT treated plants in a controled
> environment? And has different bacteria and fungi been isolated and
> used in any of these studies to pinpoint cause and effect???? Not
the
> kitchen sink approach.
> Take care Hi_Yield.
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "John Cowan" <vivax_at_n...> wrote:
> > There are a number of ways to measure photosynthesis.
> > 1. Measure the brix of plant juice from various parts.
> > 2. Use a chlorophyll meter that measures the "green" density of
> leaves.
> > 3. Measure the leaf thickness with a caliper.
> > 4. Observe growth rate such as daily extension of terminal buds.
> > Note none of the above is an absolute measure but a good but not
> perfect
> > indicators of photosynthetic activity. Surely reasonable test
plots
> or test
> > pots would be sufficient to isolate the effect of CT or any number
> of other
> > manipulations. Anybody that is curious enough can do these tests
and
> find
> > out for themselves what the effect on plant grow is.
> >
> > John Cowan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hi_yield1 [mailto:hi_yield1_at_y...]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 1:28 AM
> > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [compost_tea] Correction
> >
> >
> > In earlier post I wrote: Has anyone grown anything in a closed
> system
> > growth chamber to measure the effects of photosynthetic activty on
> CT
> > treated plants. I meant to say, to measure the photosynthetic
> > activity of CT treated plants. Take care Hi_Yield.
> >
> >
> >
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