[compost_tea] Re: do meter????

From: tomjasz <tom_at_livesoil.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:25:22 -0000

I consider Miracle grow a biological poison and an inappropriate use
of chemical fertilizer. Yes I do testing before I put compost down
to access the best source for the biology I am buying. I don't test
each batch of fertilizer, and I only deal with manufacturers willing
to supply the maufacturing data. That's the manufacturers
responsibility. If I were to EVER use a pesticide or herbicide it
would most certainly be based on testing to conclude their use was
the ONLY option. As a rule I haven;t used a pesticide or fungicide
on most of my properties in 5 years.

I'm not beating a drum, rather suggesting that as a *MANUFACTURER*
of an agricultural product, the responsible action is to test. DO
has a *HUGE* influence on quality and is very simple to monitor. ACT
*IS* unstable, and with proper education we learn to work with the
paramenters involved in managing brewing, application and sales.

ACT will never become certified (whatever that means!) if we have no
standards and guidelines!



--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Ted Peterson"
<ted.peterson_at_t...> wrote:
> Let me ask you this: Do you test every time you use Miracle Gro?
Do you test each time you put compost down? Do you test each and
every batch of fertilizer whether organic or not? Do you test each
application of pesticide or herbicide? No you don't and to keep
beating the drum that ACT is so unstable as to need testing with
each and every batch will ensure that ACT NEVER becomes certified as
a useful ag product.
>
> Ted Peterson
> Earth-Wise/Sprit of the Earth
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tomjasz
> To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 11:44 PM
> Subject: [compost_tea] Re: do meter????
>
>
> With tested equipment compatible nutrient packs and solidly
> developed methodologies we will see consistent tea within
acceptable
> parameters. The instant changes are made in nutrients a DO log
> should be considered. Once again NOT monitoring DO on a
commercial
> level is dangerously irresponsible. As far as practicallity
under
> commercial conditions, what could be easier than using an old PC
> hooked up to a DO meter to take constant readings and log them?
The
> first time there is an incident in a public
garden/park/ballfield
> and you don't have the appropriate data we are all put at risk.
> Perhaps your climmate is not as litigious! Many of us use or DO
> meters with every brew. I'm still not accepting of
scientifically
> unsubstantiated trends.
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Ted Peterson"
> <ted.peterson_at_t...> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tomjasz
> > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:57 AM
> > Subject: [compost_tea] Re: do meter????
> >
> >
> > I believe anyone producing large quantities of tea and
selling
> would
> > be foolish to NOT have reocrds of DO levels throughout the
brew!
> >
> >
> > Here we have one of the problems that Hi_Yield keeps bringing
up.
> At what point can we say that we can produce product without
> continual testing? I use DO when I change things to make sure I
am
> not substantially changing what I know works or to tell me I
have
> found something that trends a little better than previous
> methodologies.
> >
> > At some time, I have to get to a point where I say: add a, b
and c
> and you will get good tea based on the compost you use. I can't
ask
> every user to test every batch and can't expect even
commercially
> brewed tea undergo testing all the time as you suggest. It just
> isn't practical. I have logged all my batches which by now is
over
> 350 and I have noticed certain things happen at certain times
> depending on the set of variables surrounding the brewing. So I
get
> trends. When I don't see these trends, I suspect something is
> wrong.
> >
> > So at what point would you suggest putting out a recipe and
feel
> confident that a casual user could follow it and produce good --
> high bac multiples and fung extraction -- without needing to
test?
> I have 23 recipes that I feel confident I can sell or give to
> someone and the end product will be very close to the one I
> produce. Of course there will be variables depending on compost
> used. If he uses my compost and follows instructions, he should
not
> have to test at all and should be able to produce -- within a
> certain range -- exactly the same tea as me.
> >
> > Ted Peterson
> > Earth-Wise/Spirit of the Earth
>
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