[compost_tea] Re: CTTF Report - Tests

From: dkemnitz2000 <dkemnitz2000_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 01:08:32 -0000
--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Ted Peterson"
<ted.peterson_at_t...> wrote:
> You know guys.  We could be in a situation where ANY additive other
than water and air are viewed as an input that so changes that end
product that Compost Tea is no longer being produced.  We are
multiplying biology.  If we have X aerobic bacteria and Y anerobic
bacteria, applying any food feeds both.  No consideration is given
for O2 which limits anaerobes.

Possibly cause each brewer person will "aerate" at an unknown rate.
And concern regarding pathogens arises when air (O2) concentration
gets too low however low that is. And the facultative anaerobes can
use air.Dennis






  Maybe we could get certification if we only used compost with no
additives.  As I said mentioned after reading the report, milasses is
one of the additives that's OK for comost.  No mention was made of
simple compost with no inputs and no testng was done without inputs.
>
> Maybe all the additivies are freaking them out because the end
result is uncontrolled.
>

Probably so cause there are several variables indeed which to the
untrained could look like death due to pathogens. But based on your
report regarding waste solids(your next message)that's untrue. So
what are we waiting for?  Dennis




> Ted Peterson
> EW/SOE
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Kirk Leonard
>   To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 1:04 PM
>   Subject: [compost_tea] Re: Re: CTTF Report - Tests
>
>
>   Ya, Eric, your interpretation #2 is what I think applies in the
instance of
>   activating compost for tea.
>
>   > 2) it will be considered a "compost
>   > tea additive" requiring further testing or your process/recipe.
<
>
>   I don't know about "further testing" - I think all of
the "additives" used
>   in a batch - both compost activators and tea nutrients (and
adjuvants? - I'm
>   not clear on whether adjuvants require testing... seems like they
might not
>   on reflection) are covered in each test, and I still think NOT
using all
>   additives in prior tests should trigger new tests.  Does that
make sense?
>   IOW - if you test with 8 additives, you should not have to re-
test if you
>   only use three of them in a batch.
>
>   BUT... CTTF hasn't made this parsing (and I don't think I want
NOSB or NOP
>   to do it either), and it does not make any sense to me that
compost +
>   nutrients should be distinguished from activated compost + same
nutrients,
>   since activation is normally (if not always?) used to bring up
fungal
>   component, which is not a concern, per the report... only
bacterial.
>
>   So my take is if you've tested with activated compost you should
not have to
>   retest using un-activated material ... from same compost batch...
I know...
>   One of my comments will be about TOO many tests being a distinct
>   possibility....
>
>   Kirk
>
>
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