[compost_tea] Re: Anaerobic boy crosses over
Hi Bob,
Thank you for the information. I'll give it a whirl once I save up
for the air pump. My credit card's tapped. BTW the tank is round
12'X 3'.
Regards,
Titel
--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, Robert Norsen <bnbrew@y...>
wrote:
> Hi again, Titel. You have this open on the list. Hope you all
don;t mind or may have something to contribute. Join the game.
>
> Don't know the shape of your "pool" so for 1500 g I'm going to
think it is
> 250 ft3, 5 ft deep so it nees to be 50 sq ft and 5 x 10? naw,
more like 6x8 ft Maybe only 4 ft deep , 62 sq ft 7'x9'
> anything close can work as follows:
>
> You do need a 1 hp regenerative blower- $ 475 Use your credit
card. Make some money with excellent ACT later to repay the card.
Fittings and 1 1/2" flex hose from air to pvc air system.
> Go over the top edge of your pond and down 30 " or a little below
middle of the depth. Arrange a horizontal 3/4" tube the full length
of the tank, 6" from one side. Release air in fine ( 1/64" or less)
slits cut 45d diagonally in the 3/4 " pvc, slits open 1/2" long,
1/64" wide. Fine blade coping saw will work.
> Slits are 2" center to center, full length. Install a weight so
the air filled tube does not float. Cap the far end. Suspend tube
securely because the fast flowing current and waves this sets in
motion will try to move this around.
>
> So much for aeration and circulation
>
> Now take a 1/2" vinyl tube from the air line before it gets to the
aeration system and use that to drive your extraction chamber.
> Drill and tap the PVC, screw in brass fittings for the 1/2: vinyl.
> If you don't have an extactor figured out yet, keep asking.
>
> Have fun. Expect the best. It will amaze you. Bob
>
> Titel Ryzhomer <thegoodjob_at_h...> wrote:
> Bob & Mike,
>
> Okay, so if I'm going to pump air only into my 1500 gallon
resevoir
> then how do I go about it in a practical cost effective manner.
> Doing it the way I'm proposing (by copying what I saw in use) is
> costing me $120 for the resevoir and $200 for the pump. I'm going
to
> split off of 1-1/2" pipe after the venturi and run three 3/4
lines,
> one into the bag and two into the resevoir. I'm game to do
whatever
> works best with the materials at hand. If you explain a system set
> up for me please estimate the length of time for the brew to be
> completed and the temperature I should expect. The little batches
> I've been brewing have sometimes climbed up to 85 degrees. One
thing
> I can tell you for sure is I can't shell out big bucks for a
> commercial brew system
>
> Thank you for your input.
>
> Regards,
> Titel
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, Robert Norsen
> wrote:
> > I have no problem with your ingredients. Your farm friend may
> grow well with his pump / venturi system. And yours may also work.
> But if you kill 10% of the microbes you are tryng to cultivate in
> yor ACT every trip thru the pump, even as fast as they grow the
> result will be reduced by the pump. And Will the pump inject as
> much DO2 as your colony needs? Pump venturi systems are not very
> efficient at injecting DO2. Lots of energy with little air. But
> do what you wish. Bob
> >
> > Titel Ryzhomer wrote:Hi Robert (I assume),
> >
> > My 'pond' is actually at ground level and therefore can be
> drained.
> > I am attempting to copy a system I observed which has been
> producing
> > high quality tea (attested to by the plants) for several years.
It
> > is a 5000 gal. above ground swimming pool using a 2 hp
irrigation
> > pump through a homemade venturi. The farmer uses nothing but his
> > compost tea; no fertilizer of any kind. He has overcome some
very
> > serious deseases and has better yield than ever.
> >
> > You did not comment on proportions of ingredients.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tiyel
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, Robert Norsen
> > wrote:
> > > Welcome Titel - Your use of a 1500 g pond rather than a tank
is
> a
> > change worth thought.
> > >
> > > Emptying and cleaning the open air "kettle" will be different.
> > All cleaing water will be pumped out. Can you have a floor drain
> > in the pond to make it easy to pump it all ?
> > >
> > > IMO You should be thinknig air driven aeration, air driven
> > extraction not a water pump. A water pump will drive the
microbes
> > thru a pump repeatedly. Kill a bunch with each trip. Water pump
OK
> > to pump out the ACT but that is just one such trip. Our 1500
> brewer
> > uses a 2 or 3 hp regen blower to furnish enough air to keep the
> DO2
> > at aerobic levels, extract from the compost and induce
> > circulation.
> > >
> > > Titel Ryzhomer wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I'm brand new to this group and may irritate some with my
> > > ignorrance. As the subject infers, I have been making soil
> > > ammendments fermenting anaerobic microbes utilizing EM.
Recently
> I
> > > have been experimenting with brewing batches of aerobic
compost
> > tea.
> > > Some batches have been successful and some not. Success being
> > > ascertained by a clean sweet smell, light amber color and gobs
> of
> > > persistent foam (yeast?) on the surface. The materials used
are;
> > > fresh spring water, 10 liters of worm castings/100 liters of
> > water,
> > > 225 ml of fine kelp, 225 ml. of fine rock phosphate, 225 ml.
of
> > > pyrophylite clay powder, .75% black strap molasses, a fine
mesh
> > poly
> > > bag, a 50 gallon plastic barrel, an aquarium airator and a jet
> > pump.
> > >
> > > My next step is to a 1500 gallon homemade plastic lined pond
and
> a
> > > 1.5 hp irrigation pump (for brewing and delivery to crops). I
am
> > > especially wondering if I can cut back on the amount of
molasses
> > I'm
> > > using because at .75% I'm going to use over 9 gallons per
batch.
> > > I am having some trouble finding information on the internet,
> > > including the archives of this group, regarding ingredients
and
> > > proportions. Should I use powdered eggshell? in the water or
in
> > the
> > > bag? I would appreciate any input available to this greenhorn.
> > >
> > > Oh ya, about the anaerobic ammendments. I've been having
success
> > > combining it with compost tea. Success being ascertained by
> happy
> > > shiney leaves and spongy (sp?) soil. If I can get my pond
system
> > > functional then we can do some real testing over the next
couple
> > of
> > > years.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Titel
> > >
> > >
> > >
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