Re: [compost_tea] Re: Another Newbie

From: Robert Norsen <bnbrew_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:15:32 -0700 (PDT)

Hate that valerian tea. Dam I have long thought that the white hats were all on the aerobic stuff. Do I have to start down another long learning experience? Is there test data and proof of performance on anaerobic stuff somewhere like there is for aerobic?
 
I wrote a bunch of what I believed. I will listen. Bob ( Scowl )

Titel Ryzhomer <thegoodjob_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
Steve,

Thank you for that. I was about to pipe in that not all that is
anaerobic is black evil and harmful as we have found out on our farm
over the past two years applying anaerobically fermented beneficial
microbes to rejuvinate soil. In the past 8 months, thanks to reading
your posts on the EM page, we have started brewing aerobic compost
teas as well and find them equally helpful but subtly different in
effect. We have been combining the two and have only seen good
benefits to date. Our observation has been that ACT has a more
profound effect in foliar disease suppression but just maybe the
fermented "anaerobes" hold the upper hand in rapid soil rejuvination
and the worms love both.

Best Regards,
Titel

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Steve Diver"
wrote:
> Bob -
>
> I'm certainly appreciative of your experience
> and knowledge and equipment.
>
> You've written a good summary of ACT and
> and Elaine's accomplishments.
>
> Allow me to share the following. As an
> alternative to burying the horse, let us
> explore all possibilities.
>
> In the first place this email list is not
> about ACT. It is about Compost Teas.
>
> Compost teas by history, by practice,
> by research, and by definition include
> Non-Aerated Teas and Aerated Teas.
>
> Non-aerated teas also have their place.
>
> If you do not supplement these teas, then it is
> straightforward. It is easy to make and it
> has useful properties and benefits.
>
> Both types are tools proposed for organic
> farmers in the CTTF.
>
> There is a good amount of research literature on
> these NCTs. They possess disease-suppressive
> characteristics.
>
> Keep in mind that nobody can say that NCT is
> anaerobic, per se, just because it is NCT.
>
> Keep in mind, also, that anaerobic has different
> microbial pathways that can be putrefactive as well
> as fermentative. One is to be avoided, the other
> is beneficial.
>
> It might be interesting for this list to examine
> NCT properties. For one, these teas are stable
> and can be shipped easier.
>
> My network reveals interesting activity around
> the world, using both NCTs and ACTs.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Diver
>
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, Robert Norsen
wrote:
> > But BILL Aeration CAN fix or prevent a lot of otherwise problems
in
> both compost and ACTea. Compost may be marginal, nutrients added
may
> be marginal, water quality may be marginal but if aeration is good
the
> results will not be hazarous. If aeration is fails to keep O2
levels
> above the critical 6 mg/ml the dominant microbiology goes from
aerobic
> to anarobic. Therein lies the hazard. If the ACT will be
ingested (
> as foliar residue) a health hazard.
> > If the ACT is applied to plants a garden productivity hazard. If
> the ACT will be applied to a few thousand acres of a farmers crops
> there is an econmic hazard.
> >
> > In recent "advice" some writer suggested that a shovel of
compost in
> a bucket for a day or so was a way to make ACTea. ACTea is easy
and
> simple to make but there are some things that must be handled with
> knowledge and care. AIR is one of the most critical - ENOUGH air
well
> applied to be effective and to get circulation.
> >
> > Another advantage of the right AIR is that the Compost and ACTea
if
> other stuff is about right, the products may have excitinghly great
> effects on your garden, field, health!
> >
> > Is this horse ready to bury yet? Bob . .





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