Re: [compost_tea] Truth or Fiction
Not really responding to you.
--- soilfoodweb_at_aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Hi Butch -
>
> I am confused by your last e-mail. I don't mean
> that in a nasty way, or
> attacking, or anything like that. I'm just
> confused.
>
> What I was talking about was not related to changing
> the plant.
>
> Tim Kiphart meant that, I believe, in reference to
> the homeopathic
> situation, in which case your points are right on.
>
>
> But I was talking about adding diseased plant
> material into the brewer.
> There is a real concern with inoculum surviving the
> brewing process.
>
> In which case, your concern that many plants would
> die before a portion of
> the plant population was selected that would had
> natural immunity is the
> logical concern.
>
> So, I hope I clarified my meaning, that I wasn't
> talking about selection in
> the plant population at all. If the brewing
> conditions will not deal with
> the disease inoculum, people will set themselves up
> for the situation Butch was
> talking about.
>
> It is a choice some people make, to try to select,
> over the years, for
> disease resistant varieties, but you then need to
> save your own seed, and plant
> the seed you selected because they survived the
> disease.
>
> OK?
>
>
> In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:29:06 P.M. Pacific
> Standard Time,
> wilddog_202_at_yahoo.com writes:
>
> To get some disease resistance the plant must change
> genetically. Then select the resistant strain that
> developed while under stress. If you inoculate a
> large
> number of plants, sooner or later one will appear
> that
> is disease resistant. Of course you loose a lot
> crops
> in the mean time. I'm sorry it doesn't work that
> way.
> --- soilfoodweb_at_aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I would be REALLY concerned to put diseases
> material
> > straight into an
> > aerobic tea brew. Especially if the disease has
> > gone into a dormant stage in the
> > plant material, there isn't a means of killing the
> > spores in an aerobic brew.
> >
> > In a not-aerated brew, the spores are still a
> > concern, but they MIGHT be
> > killed by the anaerobic conditions.
> >
> > but if the inoculum is really high going into the
> > brewer, a 12 to 24 hour
> > brew isn't enough time to deal with all the
> dormant
> > stages of the disease
> > organisms.
> >
> > So, I couldn't recommend the practice.
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> > I was told the suggestions for adding the
> diseased
> > tomato matter to the
> >
> > compost tea originated with Amigo (Bob)
> Cantisano.
> > I assumed it meant
> > adding plant matter to the brewer. Anyone on
> this
> > list who knows Amigo Bob
> > might be able to check with him and advise us.
> > Judi
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
> Butch Ragland
> Conflict is as addictive as
> cocaine, alcohol, cigarettes,etc
> I'm sorry to report that
> cooperation is not
>
>
>
>
>
> Elaine R. Ingham
> Soil Foodweb Inc., Corvallis, Oregon
> Soil Foodweb Inc., Port Jefferson, New York
> Soil Foodweb Institute, Lismore Australia
> Soil Foodweb Institute Cambridge, New Zealand
> Laboratorios de Soil Foodweb, Culiacan, Mexico
> Soil Foodweb Inc., Jerome, Idaho
> Soil Foodweb Inc., South Africa
>
>
=====
Butch Ragland
Conflict is as addictive as
cocaine, alcohol, cigarettes,etc
I'm sorry to report that
cooperation is not
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