Re: [compost_tea] tea for pasture

From: Robert Norsen <bnbrew_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 09:38:54 -0800 (PST)

Thanks Dave. I did not see the second report you detailed in your message. It does quiet down the fantastic difference. However a 30% difference with the other advantages - if those advantages held up with the final report, seems to make ACT treatment a good investment for
the rancher.
 
In the final report, Dave, did the advantges in
1 - grass fed - no Mad Cow possible.
2 - High Omega 3
3 - High CLA
 Stay as high as in the initial report?
And, Dave did you compute the ranch advantafe and the ecological savings
that can result when grass finished beef is marketed at "as good ( or better)"
as grain finished beef? Bob

David Anderson <squtch_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Or, instead of trusting Bob's incorrect numbers, you can go read the
report straight from the rancher's keyboard.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/compost_tea/message/9547

She got what just about anyone would consider incredible results, but
they were not in the range of a 300-700% improvement. It was more
along the lines of a 30% improvement.

The growth rate for a few months was as high as Bob said, but for the
entire year, it was under 2 pounds:

"Guess you better load up and come to Texas and see our big boys! But let me
clarify: we use Tru-scale scales to weigh the animals – and in 2003 our 'big
boys' that we planned to harvest gained 3 lbs ADG between January 2003 and
March 21, 2003; that increased to 3.8 ADG as of April 24, 2003. (and yes, in
those averages we have some in the 4 and 5 lbs a day category – I never
dreamed that was possible with just grass). Obviously we didn't maintain
that rate of gain through the summer or for their entire lives but we did
come in a little less than 2 lbs for the year. Did better than we have ever
done."

So Bob caught the part where she mentioned the higher weight period,
but glossed over the yearly average.

He also seems to have missed the following paragraph where she
corrects the 1/2 pound mistake. It should have been 1.5 pounds:

"Previous to converting from conventional to sustainable, we were putting on
less than 1.5 lbs ADG (sorry Elaine if I told you .5 ADG – my mind and
mouth don't always sinc) for our young animals that were grazing and
getting a little corn to help them along."

There is no mention of whether this is the same period as the 4-5
pounds or the 2 pounds for the year. Lacking that information, it is
best to assume that it is for the year.

A 30% increase is still quite respectable, and a lot more believeable.

She also credits many other changes in their handling of the
livestock. So this is certainly not a side by side test of ACT. It
*IS* a very good testimonial.

This is why I don't like sales and marketing speak. It is never the
whole truth.

Print out that message that I referenced and show it to your friend.
Try and get them to run an experiment and report back with the
results.

Dave




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