Bob, PS on the revolution. When the revolution is
finally won, it is those who have their feet firming
planted in science, good business practices and of
couse good marketing/sales that survive. The zealots
are killed off unless they can adjust. In the mean
time Zee Ha. I love cheerleaders as much as I do the
game.
--- Robert Norsen <bnbrew_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks Dave. I did not see the second report you
> detailed in your message. It does quiet down the
> fantastic difference. However a 30% difference with
> the other advantages - if those advantages held up
> with the final report, seems to make ACT treatment a
> good investment for
> the rancher.
>
> In the final report, Dave, did the advantges in
> 1 - grass fed - no Mad Cow possible.
> 2 - High Omega 3
> 3 - High CLA
> Stay as high as in the initial report?
> And, Dave did you compute the ranch advantafe and
> the ecological savings
> that can result when grass finished beef is marketed
> at "as good ( or better)"
> as grain finished beef? Bob
>
> David Anderson <squtch_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Or, instead of trusting Bob's incorrect numbers, you
> can go read the
> report straight from the rancher's keyboard.
>
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/compost_tea/message/9547
>
> She got what just about anyone would consider
> incredible results, but
> they were not in the range of a 300-700%
> improvement. It was more
> along the lines of a 30% improvement.
>
> The growth rate for a few months was as high as Bob
> said, but for the
> entire year, it was under 2 pounds:
>
> "Guess you better load up and come to Texas and see
> our big boys! But let me
> clarify: we use Tru-scale scales to weigh the
> animals – and in 2003 our 'big
> boys' that we planned to harvest gained 3 lbs ADG
> between January 2003 and
> March 21, 2003; that increased to 3.8 ADG as of
> April 24, 2003. (and yes, in
> those averages we have some in the 4 and 5 lbs a day
> category – I never
> dreamed that was possible with just grass).
> Obviously we didn't maintain
> that rate of gain through the summer or for their
> entire lives but we did
> come in a little less than 2 lbs for the year. Did
> better than we have ever
> done."
>
> So Bob caught the part where she mentioned the
> higher weight period,
> but glossed over the yearly average.
>
> He also seems to have missed the following paragraph
> where she
> corrects the 1/2 pound mistake. It should have been
> 1.5 pounds:
>
> "Previous to converting from conventional to
> sustainable, we were putting on
> less than 1.5 lbs ADG (sorry Elaine if I told you .5
> ADG – my mind and
> mouth don't always sinc) for our young animals that
> were grazing and
> getting a little corn to help them along."
>
> There is no mention of whether this is the same
> period as the 4-5
> pounds or the 2 pounds for the year. Lacking that
> information, it is
> best to assume that it is for the year.
>
> A 30% increase is still quite respectable, and a lot
> more believeable.
>
> She also credits many other changes in their
> handling of the
> livestock. So this is certainly not a side by side
> test of ACT. It
> *IS* a very good testimonial.
>
> This is why I don't like sales and marketing speak.
> It is never the
> whole truth.
>
> Print out that message that I referenced and show it
> to your friend.
> Try and get them to run an experiment and report
> back with the
> results.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
=====
Butch Ragland
Conflict is as addictive as
cocaine, alcohol, cigarettes,etc
I'm sorry to report that
cooperation is not
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