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Dear Swamins,

Modern Science and Technology have taken us several light years ahead but it is 
sad that this subject "????????????????? ??????? ??????? ???" has to come up 
for clarifications!!

In India, when people go to Churches or to Mosques, no one questions why 
certain dress codes or Cap codes are observed. No moslem anywhere ever prays 
anywhere without a cap on and without orienting himself towards Mecca/ Medina.

No Christian goes to a Church in a Lungi or Bermudas. This is true of all 
worshippers whether modern, literate or otherwise. No one has to conduct email 
sessions for them on ??????? ??????? ??? for their religions. Dissidence is 
rampant in those religions but no one questions the basic code of attendance 
and/or dress - cap code.

Adiyen will add a few thoughts:

i) Sashtanga Namaskarams - never! Not even to an Acharya when He is inside the 
Temple Premises to offer His Mangalasasanams. This is a practice that has come 
into fashion in the recent past due to a herd mentality - Achuthan has done it 
so Anathan should do and Kesavan and so on!!

ii) This applies inside the TEmple Complex - there is no exemption here - 
before or after the Dwaja Sthambam. 

iii) Venkat Kanumala has done & is doing yeoman service - he doesn't need 
adiyen's certification but he will be well advised to stop this practice of 
offering Dhotis to sevarthis for obvious reasons,

iv) "In Kerala temples wearing other than dhothies are prohibited" - Correction 
please, Menfolk are NOT permitted to wear upper wear such as shirts/ banians/ T 
Shirts etc., Traditional Dhotis & Angavastrams only but tied to the waist 
generally, Still many millions throng Kerala Temples throgh the year in that 
attire regardless of their status,

v) Sorry, no clapping anywhere inside the Temple Complex please - i am reminded 
of Benjamin Franklin's quote "The Good Lord cures but the good doctor collects 
the fee". We can modify that to read as "The Good Lord gives but the good donor 
collects the applause"!!

vi) Srutis state "Dharmaha Kshyathi Keerthanath" - the good that comes out of 
Dharma vanishes if the said Donor even thinks for a moment that he has 
committed Dharma!! Believe me, adiyen has collected several crores over the 
years for the Asramam Projects and we never had to falicitate or clap anywhere. 

vii) A private audience with HH and a shawl and a memento are all that 98% of 
the donors need {many don't want any thing at all}.

Warmest regards.

Daasan RR.
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----- Original Message -----
From: s Rajagopalan [mailto:s11081946@xxxxxxxxxxx]
To: oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:05:46 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Oppiliappan] ????????????????? ??????? ??????? ???

Swamin,
   
  I wish to clarify my stand on the observations made by some very knowledgeble 
members of some yahoo groups.
   
  The collection of certain practises which should be avoided under the caption 
"திருக்கோயில்களில்
 செய்யக் 
கூடாதவை எவை" was 
compiled by one shri Thiru. I reproduced them as I found them to be informative 
and worth following.  My acknowledgements, appreciations and sincere thanks to 
Shri Thiru.
   
  Two items of 
"திருக்கோயில்களில்
 செய்யக் 
கூடாதவை எவை" have 
attracted the attention of some members.  As far I know and could analyse, I am 
prompted to reply on them.
  On the point " Pirappu, irappu theetu, Dr Sadagopan Swamy has amply dealt 
with the subject. May I add the following as a comman and lay man's point of 
view?
  It is common knowledge that germs and viral bacteria do come out of human 
body when ever there is a death, flow of blood or exposure of flesh, These are 
more relevant during death and birth of a child. Our learned ancestors as a 
precautionary measure, to avoid  spread of such viral germs in public places 
  advised people affected (Theetu) by the above said death and birth to keep 
away from temples.
   
  On the subject of avoidance of washing feet after visit to temples:
  Normally, we keep our selves clean due to health and wellness reasons. We 
clean our selves after sleep, tiring hard work and like. We also clean 
ourselves when we visit important places and functions. This is done to have a 
congenial and condusive atmosphere. This is being practised when we visit 
temples. We also take bath after attending funerals etc. Thus for our physical 
purification, we keep our selves clean. During the visit to temple, we pray 
God. We forget all other things except remembering God  and his Creations, 
benevolent actions etc. Our heart is filled with Divine vibrations. We cheish 
the moments. We also sit in the temple Premises for a while so that those 
moments are retained in our memory. The act of washing our feet after visit to 
the temple erases all such memories and leaves impressions as if we have 
attended some unwanted and undesirable situations though this is  symbolic. Our 
ancestors, who have adopted doctrines, have kept them keeping the well
 being of the man kind in mind. Attempting to analyse such actions, perhaps 
will make us to find reasons even for silly things and turn us athiests and 
Divine haters. We follow chantings and utter them even without knowing their 
meanings and purposes. Let us follow this also like that. Let us not loose our 
traditional values in the name of modernity and objective thinking.
   
  Shri  Narasimhachari has mentioned three more points to be added. One is that 
we should not perform sashtanga Namaskarams in the Sannadhi and the appropriate 
place is before the Dwajasthambam. It is an omission and we have to follow 
that. Regarding claps and appreciations in the temple premises for performances 
and benevolent acts, if it is in the auditorium attached to the temple or in 
some Mandapams in the praharam probably we could accommadate as we have to 
flatter patrons and performers in the interest of the temple.                
   Shri Aravamudhan has suggested to permit sashtanga Namaskaram inside 
Sannadhi. Probably he has forgotten that it will be a biggest inconvenience to 
other bhakthas. All his other suggestions are followable.
  Shri Geelakshman has suggested for dressing codes. In south Indian temples it 
is being followed. In Kerala temples wearing other than dhothies are 
prohibited. Ladies have to come in traditional dresses. Lunghies are not 
permitted in Tamilnadu Temples. His observation is  probably or U S temples.
   
  Suggestions of Shri Srinivasan are worth adoption.
   
  Probably we may have some more thought provoking suggestions. 
      
                                                              S RAJAGOPALAN.    
           

       
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