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Re: corporate archives
Peter, unfortunately your an exception to the rule.
Bob Dalton, CRM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurilecz, Peter" <peter.kurilecz@WOODSIDESUMMITGROUP.COM>
To: <ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: corporate archives
> Bill wrote:
> > It has even come to our attention here that certain firms
> > have contacted the
> > Company without the knowledge of the Archives, stating more
> > or less that the
> > Company should close down the existing program, because the
> > firm can do it
> > cheaper and better.
> >
> > Sometimes, we get no respect, I tell ya!
>
> In my opinion that is unethical, rude, and unacceptable behaviour.
> As a RM consultant the first thing I want to know about a potential client
> is whether or not they have records professional on staff. If so I want to
> meet them. I do not want to nor will I denigrate another peer in order to
> gain business. I want your business and I want to work with you, not
against
> you.
>
> Rant mode off
>
> Peter A. Kurilecz CRM, CA
> Woodside Summit Group, Inc
> Richmond, Virginia
> Tel: 804-744-1247 extension 23
> Fax: 804-744-4947
> mailto:peter.kurilecz@woodsidesummitgroup.com
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jackson, Bill [mailto:Bill.Jackson@HARLEY-DAVIDSON.COM]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:09 AM
> > To: ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> > Subject: Re: corporate archives
> >
> >
> > I for one am heartened to see these postings advocating
> > corporate in-house
> > programs. For a while, the professional literature, along with some
> > speeches I was hearing at SAA and MAC, were challenging the notion.
> >
> > They ranged from suggestions that corporations close down the
> > programs they
> > had because the public archivists could manage the records
> > better all the
> > way up to open attacks on the competence of corporate archivists.
> >
> > It has even come to our attention here that certain firms
> > have contacted the
> > Company without the knowledge of the Archives, stating more
> > or less that the
> > Company should close down the existing program, because the
> > firm can do it
> > cheaper and better.
> >
> > Sometimes, we get no respect, I tell ya!
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Sokolow [mailto:daniel_sokolow@MCGRAW-HILL.COM]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 8:53 AM
> > To: ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> > Subject: corporate archives
> >
> >
> > From: Daniel Sokolow@MCGRAW-HILL on 03/30/2000 09:52 AM
> >
> >
> > To: archives@listserv.muohio.edu
> > cc:
> > Subject: corporate archives
> >
> > Ahem.
> >
> > Hello?
> >
> > Anybody out there?
> >
> > Just checking - I'm starting to feel a little ignored in this whole
> > conversation. I admit I haven't been following the whole
> > discussion very
> > carefully, but I got the sense from Richard's posting that the poor
> > corporate
> > archives will disappear if we ("the profession") don't take
> > action. May I
> > point
> > out, gently, that I am, officialy, a _CORPORATE_ archivist.
> > That is, it is
> > my
> > official job to take care of the company's archives. Many
> > corporations are
> > taking active steps to preserve their own history without
> > asking for help
> > from
> > university archivists.
> >
> > I've been getting the impression that there's a bit of a gap
> > (I'm being
> > polite)
> > between the corporate and the academic archivists, and I
> > certainly get the
> > sense
> > that many academic archivists refuse to admit that a
> > for-profit organization
> > can
> > have any interest or concern in their own histories or
> > archives. Those of
> > us on
> > this side of the fence can point out that some are taking
> > steps. And quite
> > frankly, there's nothing wrong with working for a
> > corporation. The pay is
> > often
> > better, the system (occasionally) works more efficiently, and
> > I for one -
> > and I
> > swore before I got this job I would never work in corporate
> > America - am
> > quite
> > happy in my corporate job. Sometimes the job sucks, but so does
> > everybody's.
> >
> > I don't want to misinterpret Richard's comments, but
> > certainly I don't think
> > we
> > need to sound a panic alarm about the influx of the evil
> > corporations. That
> > academic chairs are all donated by corporations instead of
> > protesters from
> > the
> > picket lines is a matter of money, and corporations have it. What
> > difference
> > does it make anyway? At least there's another academic
> > opportunity, even if
> > it
> > was created by an evil corporation. I suppose academic
> > freedom is at risk,
> > but
> > anyone who thinks that's not the case in the rest of the
> > university is just
> > not
> > paying attention. Everyone makes compromises, ethical and otherwise,
> > whether we
> > admit it or not.
> >
> > A corporate archivist's job is the same as an academic's - manage and
> > maintain
> > the records of your institution. The uses of the collection
> > are different,
> > the
> > patrons are different, and the needs are different, but it's
> > just a job the
> > same
> > as any other. Good, competent archivists do their job
> > properly whatever the
> > setting - yes the pay sucks sometimes, yes the demands are
> > unreasonable, but
> > you
> > do your job because that's what you get paid to do.
> >
> > DS
> >
> >
> > Daniel Sokolow
> > Corporate Archivist
> > The McGraw-Hill Companies
> > 1221 Avenue of the Americas
> > New York, NY 10020
> > daniel_sokolow@mcgraw-hill.com
> >
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