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Re: Don't forget Madoc, Prince of Wales



I have had the good fortune of seeing the pagoda-like structure at Palenque,
Chiapas, Mexico. How can one explain that architectural style in that
setting?

Sharon Lee Butcher
Reference Librarian
AEDC Technical Library
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Arnold AFB, TN  37389-3212
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xiamen Lee [SMTP:xiamen_lee@YAHOO.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:23 AM
> To:   ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> Subject:      Don't forget Madoc, Prince of Wales
>
> According to ancient Chinese legend a small boat
> captained by Huai Yuan was blown off course, and it
> ran ahead of the wind for days.  When it stopped,
> finally, it ran aground on land which "faced the
> setting sun."
> This land was populated with many strange people and
> animals.  America?
>
> The assumption had always been that this was just a
> legend.  The idea that a small boat could survive
> being blown across thousands of miles of open water,
> and then sail back to tell of it seemed impossible.
>
> Still, the legends persist, and so it is possible that
> Chinese sailors were early visitors to the Americas,
> too.  Obviously, nothing came of the visit.
>
> Xiamen Lee
>
>
>
>
>
>  One also can't forget Leif Erikson, who made it to
>  Newfoundland
>  around
>  the same time.  There are also stories among the
>  Iclandic Sagas of
>  their warriors arriving on the coast of
>  Canada/Newfoundland and
>  being
>  expelled the first few times by the fierce natives,
>  and some rather
>  Northern European traits among those Native
>  Americans as well.
>  -----Original Message----- From: Dean DeBolt
>  <ddebolt@MAIL.UWF.EDU>
>  To: ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
>  <ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU> Date:
>  Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:59 AM Subject:
>  [ARCHIVES] Don't
>  forget
>  Madoc, Prince of Wales
>
>
>  I did a wonderful historiographical paper for the
>  Gulf Coast
>  History and Humanities Conference back in 1991 or
>  1992
>  about the story and legend of Prince Madoc of Wales
>  who
> reputedly sailed into Mobile Bay about 900 A.D. and
> whose
> Welsh culture was absorbed into the Native
> Americans.
> Echoes of this legend are shown by rumors of Welsh
> Indians,
> Elizabeth I's claim to North America as English by
> right of
> title from Madoc (led to Roanoke and Jamestown
> settlement),
> Jefferson's instructions to Lewis and Clark to look
>  for the
>  Welsh Indians in their exploration of the Louisiana
>  Territory,
>  and the discovery of a unique farming,
>  "coracle-like" boat
>  building, mud/thatch hut-living Indian tribe on the
>  upper waters of
>  the Missouri, the Mandans---and the later paintings
>  of them by George
>  Catlin who was struck by their blue-eyes and
>  "european" features.
>  It was a lot of fun tracing this story through time
>  and while we may
>  never know the answer, it is a good a contender as
>  any for
>  pre-Columbian "visits" to America.
>
>  Dean
>
>  Dean DeBolt
>  University Librarian
>
>
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