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Re: Don't forget Madoc, Prince of Wales
Though we are most familiar with the stepped pyramids of the Ancient Maya,
there are actually a number of sites with unusual buildings. The "Caracol"
at Chichen Itza is another that comes to mind. It looks like an
observatory. I don't think it necessarily means they needed some foreigner
to tell them how to build them.
Alex Pezzati
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At 08:09 AM 10/11/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I have had the good fortune of seeing the pagoda-like structure at Palenque,
>Chiapas, Mexico. How can one explain that architectural style in that
>setting?
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Xiamen Lee [SMTP:xiamen_lee@YAHOO.COM]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:23 AM
>> To: ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
>> Subject: Don't forget Madoc, Prince of Wales
>>
>> According to ancient Chinese legend a small boat
>> captained by Huai Yuan was blown off course, and it
>> ran ahead of the wind for days. When it stopped,
>> finally, it ran aground on land which "faced the
>> setting sun."
>> This land was populated with many strange people and
>> animals. America?
>>
>> The assumption had always been that this was just a
>> legend. The idea that a small boat could survive
>> being blown across thousands of miles of open water,
>> and then sail back to tell of it seemed impossible.
>>
>> Still, the legends persist, and so it is possible that
>> Chinese sailors were early visitors to the Americas,
>> too. Obviously, nothing came of the visit.
>>
>> Xiamen Lee
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> One also can't forget Leif Erikson, who made it to
>> Newfoundland
>> around
>> the same time. There are also stories among the
>> Iclandic Sagas of
>> their warriors arriving on the coast of
>> Canada/Newfoundland and
>> being
>> expelled the first few times by the fierce natives,
>> and some rather
>> Northern European traits among those Native
>> Americans as well.
>> -----Original Message----- From: Dean DeBolt
>> <ddebolt@MAIL.UWF.EDU>
>> To: ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
>> <ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU> Date:
>> Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:59 AM Subject:
>> [ARCHIVES] Don't
>> forget
>> Madoc, Prince of Wales
>>
>>
>> I did a wonderful historiographical paper for the
>> Gulf Coast
>> History and Humanities Conference back in 1991 or
>> 1992
>> about the story and legend of Prince Madoc of Wales
>> who
>> reputedly sailed into Mobile Bay about 900 A.D. and
>> whose
>> Welsh culture was absorbed into the Native
>> Americans.
>> Echoes of this legend are shown by rumors of Welsh
>> Indians,
>> Elizabeth I's claim to North America as English by
>> right of
>> title from Madoc (led to Roanoke and Jamestown
>> settlement),
>> Jefferson's instructions to Lewis and Clark to look
>> for the
>> Welsh Indians in their exploration of the Louisiana
>> Territory,
>> and the discovery of a unique farming,
>> "coracle-like" boat
>> building, mud/thatch hut-living Indian tribe on the
>> upper waters of
>> the Missouri, the Mandans---and the later paintings
>> of them by George
>> Catlin who was struck by their blue-eyes and
>> "european" features.
>> It was a lot of fun tracing this story through time
>> and while we may
>> never know the answer, it is a good a contender as
>> any for
>> pre-Columbian "visits" to America.
>>
>> Dean
>>
>> Dean DeBolt
>> University Librarian
>>
>>
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