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Re: Copyright on Older Materials



I guess my question is: if I give someone a copy of a photo for his or her
own use (for which we charge only copy fees), and then they want to publish
it (for which we charge an additional fee), since he/she now owns a copy of
the photo, am I legally justified in charging him/her for that permission?

Thanks,

--Eli Naeher
   Lower Cape Fear Historical Society

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry Abraham" <tabraham@uidaho.edu>
> To: "E. Naeher" <enaeher@YIFAN.NET>
> Cc: <ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Copyright on Older Materials
>
>
> > The trick here is to forget about copyright entirely (or almost
entirely)
> > and concentrate on what you can do when you own the object. Copyright is
> > an attempt to control uses even when the object is owned by someone
else.
> >
> > If I own a book or a photo, I can control who looks at it or copies from
> > it. I can grant you permission to copy it (and cover myself in terms of
> > copyright by stating "It is the user's responsibility to guard against
the
> > infringement of rights that might be held by others"). And so that is
what
> > I do.
> >
> > Does that help?
> >
> >    ---Terry
> >
> > -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-
Terry
> > Abraham Special Collections, University of Idaho
> > <http://www.lib.uidaho.edu/special-collections/>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, E. Naeher wrote:
> >
> > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> > > Most archives I've encountered, including ours, have policies
requiring
> =
> > > permission and/or fees for publication of any of their material
(photos,
> =
> > > paintings, etc.), regardless of the date of origin of the material.
> > >
> > > However, what I've read of the applicable copyright law seems to state
=
> > > that materials published prior to 1964 are copyright for 28 years with
a
> =
> > > maximum total copyright, if renewed, of 95 years (past date of
copyright
> =
> > > or publication).  What is the legal basis for a library's charging for
=
> > > rights to materials older than 95 years?  I can see the legality of =
> > > stating: "In order to get access to or a copy of this physical item,
you
> =
> > > must agree not to publish its intellectual content without our =
> > > permission."  But this is rarely if ever stated beforehand.  Am I =
> > > missing something obvious?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --Eli Naeher
> > >   Lower Cape Fear Historical Society
> > >
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> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most archives I've encountered, =
> > > including ours,=20
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> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However, what I've read of the =
> > > applicable copyright=20
> > > law seems to state that materials published prior to 1964 are
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> > > for 28=20
> > > years with a maximum total copyright, if renewed, of 95 years (past
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> > > of=20
> > > copyright or publication).&nbsp; What is the legal basis for a
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> > >
> > > charging for rights to materials older than 95 years?&nbsp; I can see
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> > > the=20
> > > legality of stating: "In order to get access to or a copy of this =
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> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--Eli Naeher</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; Lower Cape Fear Historical=20
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