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Re: MVP and Organic

To Steve Diver
Thanks for your comments.
To my best knowledge GM microbes have never been approved for use in
organic  production. At any rate, out of date advise is  misleading
advise and could cost farmers the organic label if they followed such
advise. Universities should be careful of their advise because, as I am
sure you are aware producers wrong advise on pesticides  are very costly.
The scandal in the U Conn.  environmental and organic  laboratories is
described on the University Web site and I certainly hope that the
scandal will lead the University to  a thorough review of their
relationships with industry and the fundamental quality of their programs.
Of the two URL that you provided  I do not understand the benefit of the
IPM data for organic farmers? The OMRI List  is super and a great help.
What I do not understand is why  the USDA  organic program does not
appear to provide a useful and authoritative list for the benefit of
organic farmers and the public and for lawyers as well?
Sincertely, Prof. Joe Cummins


Steve Diver wrote:


Vern Grubinger wrote that article you refer to.  Grubinger has
supported sustainable and organic farmers for over a decade
in the Northeastern U.S.   You should get a copy of the NRAES
book he wrote, for your bookshelf:

Sustainable Vegetable Production From Start-Up to Market. 1999.
By Vernon P. Grubinger. NRAES-104. Natural Resource, Agriculture,
and Engineering Service, Ithaca, NY. 268 p.

That article is several years old, that's all. It has the
flavor of an overview article rather than a list of
up-to-date pest controls.

UConn IPM has a wealth of great resources.
http://www.hort.uconn.edu/ipm/

The OMRI List is the premium source to understand approved products.
http://www.omri.org/OMRI_brand_name_list.html

Regards,
Steve Diver


joe cummins wrote:


Hi Chuck,
Thanks a million for clearing up the MVP question in organic
agriculture.
I find that the pronouncement from authorities such as the University of
Conn. extension to be  very
perplexing.:http://www.hort.uconn.edu/ipm/general/htms/orgpest.htm
PESTICIDES FOR ORGANIC GROWERS
"The major types of B.t. are the 'kurstake' strain for caterpillar pests
(Dipel, Javelin, Thuricide, MVP, etc.) and the 'San Diego' or
'tenebrionis' strain for potato beetle larvae (M-One, M-Trak, Beetle
Beater, Novodor, etc.)."
Is there an effort in the University  community to spread disinformation
on organics with the goal of forcing acceptance of GM products?  Or are
the "authorities" in US  universities so ill informed that there
opinions are of no value? Finally,  the university that advises organic
farmers  to employ MVP  certainly is liable for damages to the farmer
when the crop is not allowed the organic label.
It would be nice if  NOP could provide the actual standards in  a form
easily accessed by organic farmers and the public.
Sincerely, Prof. Joe Cummins



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