Re: alternative poultry feed (was: Chicken Feed Politics)

From: gil carandang (gil_carandang@HOTMAIL.COM)
Date: Sat Mar 22 2003 - 19:19:06 EST


hi!
send me your monograph on achieving sustainable agriculture.

thanks,
gil carandang






>From: David Menne <menne@IINET.NET.AU>
>Reply-To: Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group
><SANET-MG@LISTS.IFAS.UFL.EDU>
>To: SANET-MG@LISTS.IFAS.UFL.EDU
>Subject: Re: [SANET-MG] alternative poultry feed (was: Chicken Feed
>Politics)
>Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 06:56:28 +0800
>
>Could a cogniscenti [a REAL cogniscenti, with numbers and facts rather than
>opinions they do not wish to provide supporting data for]; comment on the
>nutritional value - or more correctly - the health challenge of chicken
>meat
>and eggs if fed various rations as compared to harvesting their own greens
>and insects.
>
>My understanding is that meat/eggs off "concentration camp" chooks, as
>compared to the naturally reared ones are deficient in EPA/DHA[eg C22:6];
>Arachidonic acid; Cysteine; Vitamins A and E, Lecithin and Choline.
>
>In particular my studies lead me to believe that the eggs off
>"concentration
>camp" chooks are highly deficient in n-3 Fatty Acids, and constitute food
>with highly health-hazardous n-6:n-3 ratios over 10; as compared to being
>as
>highly health-beneficial as the values near 1 found in naturally raised
>chooks.
>
>I am gaining more and more the impression that Industrialised Agriculture
>of
>flesh produces foodstuffs toxic or at least less beneficial to human health
>than Natural Agriculture [what I would term Sustainable Agricilture(*)].
>
>The latest example : Spending extra, on occasional Salmon Fillets to enjoy
>the health benefits of Omega-3 Fatty Acids ? Think again. While the Omega-3
>Fatty Acid content of naturally raised Salmon fillets may range around
>4.5%,
>Farmed Salmon [kept in "concentration camp" cages and forced to eat an
>unnatural grainbased diet] - the fillets most likely on sale in your
>stores - DO NOT MAKE IT EVEN TO 1% Omega-3 Fatty Acid content.
>
>Might not the trend to grains becoming the basis of protein production -
>especially in unnatural climates and geographies where where natural
>feeding
>not be possible - be one of the most potent Anti-Sustainable forces
>presently buffeting our Quality of Life and Gaian Sustainability ?
>
>(*)Members of this Forum are welcome to receive free by email my 77 page
>monograph on Achieving Sustainable Agriculture :
>
>SEEKING SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION
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>1.0 OBJECTIVE
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>2.0 SUMMARY
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>3.0 INTRODUCTION
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>4.0 THE BENEFICIAL ROLES OF SOIL ORGANISMS
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>4.1 MICROORGANISMS
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>4.1.1 BACTERIA
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>4.1.2 FUNGI
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>4.1.3 ACTINOMYCETES
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>4.1.4 ALGAE
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>4.1.5 PROTOZOA
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> 4.1.6 NEMATODES
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> 4.1.7.1 HORMONES
>4.1.7.2 VITAMINS
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>4.1.7.2.1 UTILIZATION BY PLANTS
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>4.1.7.2.1 VITAMIN EFFECTS ON GERMINATION AND SPROUTING
> 4.1.7.2.2 VITAMIN AND HORMONE
>EFFECTS ON ROOT GROWTH
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>4.1.7.2.3 VITAMIN EFFECTS ON GROWTH AND YIELD
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>4.1.7.3 SOIL ORGANISMS AND SOIL QUALITY
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> 4.1.7.3.1 HORMONES
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>4.1.7.3.2.1 VITAMIN EFFECTS ON GERMINATION AND SPROUTING
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>4.1.7.3.2.2 VITAMIN AND HORMONE EFFECTS ON PLANT ROOT GROWTH
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>4.1.7.3.2.3 VITAMIN EFFECTS ON GROWTH AND YIELD
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> 4.1.7.3.3 MICROBIAL GENERATION OF VITAMINS AND HORMONES
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> 4.1.7.3.4 MYCORRHIZAL SYMBIOSES
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>4.1.7.3.4.1 UPTAKE AND TRANSFER OF SOIL NUTRIENTS
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>4.1.7.3.4.2 CARBON FLUXES IN MYCORRHIZAL PLANTS
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>4.1.7.3.4.3 PROBLEMS AND POTENTIAL FOR INOCULUM PRODUCTION AND USE
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> 4.2 LARGER SOIL INVERTEBRATES
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>5.0 MACRONUTRIENT FERTILIZATION
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>5.1 PROGRESSIVELY MORE FERTILISER NEEDED TO MAINTAIN YIELDS
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>5.2 REDUCED PROFITABILITY
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>5.3 LOWER PLANT HEALTH, QUALITY AND YIELD
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>5.4 LESS NUTRITIOUS CROPS
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>5.5 SOIL DEPLETION AND DEGRADATION
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>5.6 ECOLOGICAL DESTRUCTION
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>5.7 DEPLETION OF BENEFICIAL SOIL ORGANISMS
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>5.7.1 EFFECTS OF NITROGEN
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>5.7.2 REMINERALIZATION
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>6.0 PESTICIDES
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>6.1 REDUCED PROFITABILITY
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>6.2 HORRENDOUS IMPACTS ON HEALTH
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>6.2.1 ILLNESS AND DEATH
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>6.2.3 CANCERS
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>6.2.4 NEUROTOXICITY
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>6.3 BUILD UP OF PEST RESISTANCE
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>6.4 DESTRUCTION OF NATURAL PREDATION & SOIL ORGANISMS
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>6.5 UNSUSTAINABLE ECOLOGICAL DESTRUCTION
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>7.0 HERBICIDES
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>7.1 REDUCED PROFITABILITY
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>7.2 HORRENDOUS IMPACTS ON HEALTH
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>7.3 BUILD UP OF WEED RESISTANCE
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>7.4 DESTRUCTION OF BENEFICIAL SOIL ORGANISMS
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>7.5 UNSUSTAINABLE ECOLOGICAL DESTRUCTION
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>8.0 MONOCULTURAL PRACTICES AND/OR SUBSTANTIAL TILLING
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>9.0 SOIL DEPLETION AND REBUILDING
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> 9.1 CARBON
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>9.2 TILTH
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>9.3 ALBRECHT SOIL CRITERIA
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>9.4 REAMS/CALLAGHAN SOIL QUALITY CRITERIA
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>9.5 PETER H WEISS
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> 9.5.1 THE REMINERALIZATION IMPERATIVE
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> 9.5.2 ONE WAY TO ELIMINATE HAZARDOUS PESTICIDES
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>9.6 IN SUMMARY
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>10.0 PLANT COMPOSITION - THE BOTTOM LINE
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jane Jewett" <jewet006@UMN.EDU>
>To: <SANET-MG@LISTS.IFAS.UFL.EDU>
>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:26 PM
>Subject: [SANET-MG] alternative poultry feed (was: Chicken Feed Politics)
>
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Regarding alternative rations for poultry, the Buckwheat
>Growers
> > Association of Minnesota has formulated poultry rations using field
>peas,
> > buckwheat, hull-less oats, corn, and flax:
>www.buckwheatgrowers.com/feed.htm
> >
> > Jane
> >
> > Mike Miller wrote:
> > >First a possible real life solution, then musings later. Some time ago
>the
> > >suggestion was made that Canada field peas could be used as a no-cook,
>high
> > >protein substitute for soybean meal in chicken feed. Given your
>climate
>and
> > >moisture conditions, could this not be grown as a higher protein grain
>feed
> > >souce to mix with the barely? I think the person suggested a 1/3 mix
>each of
> > >barley, oats and Canada field pea for a growing ration and a 30-30-40
>mix
>for
> > >a starting mash. Now for the econo-babble :>)
> >
> > Jane Grimsbo Jewett
> > Information Exchange
> > Minnesota Institute for Sustainable Agriculture
> > University of Minnesota
> > ********************************************************
> > The best manure for the land is the owner's footprint
> > --Aristotle, Economics (paraphrased)
> >
> >


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