[compost_tea] Re: Large scale CT production for farm use

From: musicman44jt <jtheo_at_surfmk.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:59:09 -0000

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "dkemnitz2000"
<dkemnitz2000_at_y...> wrote:
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "bgunzy" <bgunzy_at_n...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the replies. I agree, ACT by itself doesn't appear to
> > rebuild OM, but that in combination with cover crops would help
do
> > the job. Wouldn't ACT help break down existing residue better
than
> > if left alone (assuming the present microbial activity is low)?
> >
> > Here's one idea I've thought about: on soybeans going to corn,
> > broadcast spread a cover crop like winter wheat, then incorporate
> it
> > and the ACT at the same time with a disk or field cultivator. In
> the
> > spring, disk or field cultivate out the wheat,

One method I have heard about is to fall seed oats. They will grow in
the fall, then get winter killed. Soybeans can then be planted
directly in the residue. Don't know about corn after oats. Jerry
<><>>><><><<><<<<><<<<<<><>>>>>><<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>
> If you let the wheat get very big you'll have to plow it. How much
> residue can you're bean and milo planter handle? I disced wheat
> stubble and grass trash this spring cause I didn't want to plow and
> the field cultivator kept plugging. With the somewhat wet spring
we
> had (KS) I have pig weeds as big as the milo now. Next year I'm
> probably plowing the milo ground. Dennis
>
>
>
>
>
> again while applying
> > and incorporating ACT. Spray ACT again in the summer as a foliar
> > application. A similar practice for corn going to soybeans as
> well.
> > Doing this would give the ACT something to work on in the spring,
> as
> > well as helping break down residue in the fall, as well as
protect
> > against mid-season outbreaks. Biggest question is if I can take
> out
> > the growing wheat plants before planting the desired field crop.
I
> > would consider wheat as a field crop on some farms, and I'd
improve
> > the seeding method (drilling instead of broadcasting) for that
> > situation as well.
> >
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "ddrunyon" <ddrunyon_at_y...>
> wrote:
> > > -
> > > Hello ! I have started using (ACT) on my corn this year. I'am
> > > appling
> > > 2 gal per acre in the seed trench( it requires time). I have
been
> > > watching it and will know more after harvest. I do not use any
> > > insecticides, some herbicides(Hey don't jump on me yet). I'am
not
> > > 100% converted. But I know that I will not return back to where
I
> > > was before! If you want to increase OM start a green crop
> program
> > > and do not stop for 5 years. It will take that long to show
> > > anything, after all this did not happen overnight!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Bolander"
> > > <tim.bolander_at_t...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Bgunzy,
> > > > My experience is that ACT definitly promotes goals 2, 3 and
4.
> > > Goal 5 is less obvious.
> > > > ACT, by itself, does not increase the OM in a soil.
> > > > Selected compost crops, production of a tested, high quality
> > > compost
> > > > Spread as needed and use ACT to conserve and increase the %
of
> OM
> > > in the soil.
> > > > Use compost tea only in non-composted fields.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: bgunzy
> > > > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:53 PM
> > > > Subject: [compost_tea] Re: Large scale CT production for
farm
> > use
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here are my goals with using ACT:
> > > > 1) Rebuild OM in eroded soils
> > > > 2) Create healthier plants (measurable in Brix) that have
> > higher
> > > > quality output
> > > > 3) Greater protection from diseases and insects
> > > > 4) Balance soil nutrients to reduce fertilizer inputs
> > > > 5) Reduce weed pressure
> > > >
> > > > I've studied the writings of Charles Walters, as he quotes
> > > Albrecht
> > > > and others, and find a lot of interesting information
there.
> I
> > > think
> > > > there are ways to improve our land without resorting to the
> > > latest
> > > > and greatest products from Monsanto.
> > > >
> > > > Compost - we have cattle, so manure from the dry lot is
> > > available
> > > > (albeit not enough to spread on all of our acres). We also
> > have
> > > > higher carbon sources, like straw, to mix with the manure.
> > What
> > > I
> > > > like about ACT is that the benefits of a relatively small
> > amount
> > > of
> > > > high quality compost can be applied to a greater area.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > BGunzy
> > > >
> > > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Bolander"
> > > > <tim.bolander_at_t...> wrote:
> > > > > One thousand acres is not the question. It is what do you
> > want
> > > > accomplished and do you have the right compost for the job.
I
> > > have
> > > > good brewer designs and the know how. Let me know if you
are
> of
> > > > interested
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Timothy Bolander
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: bgunzy
> > > > > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:57 AM
> > > > > Subject: [compost_tea] Large scale CT production for
farm
> > use
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new to CT, but am starting to believe that it has
the
> > > > potential
> > > > > to provide great benefits to our crops. Does anyone
have
> > > any
> > > > > experience or knowledge of CT being used on a larger
> scale,
> > > say
> > > > for a
> > > > > 1000 acre farm or so? I am a corn/soybean/alfalfa
farmer
> > in
> > > SC
> > > > Iowa,
> > > > > and would like to start creating my own tea for on-the-
> farm
> > > use,
> > > > if
> > > > > possible. I have the CT manual on order, so that may
> > > provide
> > > > some
> > > > > answers, but just wondering if anyone had done this on
a
> > > larger
> > > > > scale, and if so, what lessons have you learned?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > BGunzy
> > > > >
> > > > >
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