Re: [compost_tea] Re: ACT

From: David Loring <dloring3_at_cox.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:50:43 -0700

Dennis - I agree with about 95% of what you've said but there is a need for=
 testing in my mind, not with someones hard found recipe, but with a mutual=
ly agreed to compost and food of some kind. Unless we can get information =
about the variability of these machines then we're all on our own a bit and=
 progress, much needed, will be difficult. It's hard to extrapolate to new=
 situations unless we nail down the variables one at a time. I think the s=
trength of this forum is found in combining our sometimes expensive experie=
nces. I've spent a couple thousand on testing myself without any product e=
xcept that I teach. Those of us in the non-commercial world stand to gain =
the most from sharing. If I can pay for only one report and get the answer=
s from 5-10 others I'd consider it money well spent.
Dave
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: dkemnitz2000
  To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:04 PM
  Subject: [compost_tea] Re: ACT


  --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "tomjasz" <tom_at_l...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, but understandably the developers of the nutrient
> packs have invested thousands of dollars in their "recipes". Two
> developers I have conversations with aren't particularly excited
> about having a competition. They are busy with their farmers, fruit
> growers and viticulturists developing successful operations based
  on
> sustainable practice and using ACT as a part of the program. The
> controlled testing has been going on with several manufacturers for
> several years. The idea of a competition borders on the ridiculous
> from my perspective. What would such a competition achieve?
> Apparently several tea systems are producing stellar results. Some
> find the need to blather about and have NOT achieved any consistent
> successes.(comment not directed at list!) I continue to suspect
  they
> bandy about only the best of their tests. Other manufacturers
> consistently produce high quality tea without competitions or this
> list. Please don't misunderstand that comment...there are over 300
> members and about ten posters!!!
>
> Thanks for the invitation Tom! I already wrote Brewer Bob and this
  list two opinions earlier today which I cancelled for consideration
  to all.
     I'd have to say my bottom line is cost perhaps like many of you.
  I believe in tests, like Jeff. I am a lab tech in a food testing lab
  and don't make enough money to hire tests on tea I'll use on a 65
  acre farm. In our lab we use standard testing procedures. Some
  samples(duplicates) are sent to other labs to see how we compare to
  them. You might be suprised but they don't get the same answer we
  get any way. Even labs(and brewers) must deal with accuracy and
  precision.
    So I'll be brewing, testing applying and reporting based on what I
  glean from this board and seminars and cd's and ATTRA and whatever
  else might work without hiring many experts. I guess this is better
  than spraying pesticides herbicides and fertilizers. Dennis Kemnitz


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