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Re: Cops: Can't Live With Them, Can't Live Without Them



In article <JamieYanak-0105952310550001@database-mac.oai.org>,
Jamie Yanak <JamieYanak@oai.org> wrote:
>In article <3nqsq7$84p@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>,
>adr5@aloha.cc.columbia.edu (Alex D Rodriguez) wrote:
> 
>> In this scenario run with lights only.  Shut your sirens off.  I rather have
>> someone run off with my property than have a cop hurt someone.  When you are
>> a block away, after you have gone through all intersections, shut the lights
>> off.  No one is going to bitch about that.
>
>I'm glad YOU feel that way. However, were I was a cop (West Palm Beach County)
>they were quite a bit more materalistic than you. When a burglar alarm 
>was received, you were expected to be there yesterday. It is the same in many 
>cities inhabited by very wealthy taxpayers. If it takes you more than 4-5
>minutes to respond, the Lt's going to want to know why, and you'd better
>have a good reason.

There is not much you can do about the selfish people who only think of 
their property.  Many a very hefty charge for all false alarms, I've heard
that a large majority of those burglar alarm calls are false, would make the
taxpayers more understanding.

>
>It's also not unknown for the "real slick" thieves/burglars to use spotters.
>These guys can be blocks away, equipped with radio's, and scanners keeping
>a sharp eye out for the responding cars. 


The slick ones lookout man also knows what a police car looks like.  He will
recognize it with or without it's lights on.  The light bars and the easily
identified headlight signature give the cars away.

>
>> I think the big light bar on the roof does a good job of giving you away.
>> Anyone who misses the light bar during the day is not going to see the lights
>> flashing either.
>
>Hah!...You'd be surprised how oblivious people can be. It's the people who
>do see the lightbar (because they're breaking the law, and they're looking
>for it)

Actually, I'm not surprised that people miss the lightbar, they are the ones
that are a hazard to everyone else on the road.

>
>> I still don't take your word for it.  It comes down to either believing
>> what I have seen, or what you say.  I'm sure there have been a couple of times
>> when I did misinterpret a cops actions, but most of the time I have seen 
>> that the cops were just on routine patrol.  If they had been in a hurry they
>> would not have waited for the pedestrians to all cross the street before they
>> ran the light.  In the city, that is what I see them do most of the time.
>
>Now come on, there certainly not going to run a red light when there's
>pedestrians crossing the street, lights & siren or not.

I can honestly say that I have not seen a police car run a light, without its
sirens on, while pedestrians are crossing.  They do wait, but when the peds
go by, they shoot right through.

>
>>I just don't like the attitude alot of them carry.  This past weekend I
>got >another example of a cop with an attitude. I was in Atlantic City and
>they had >some event on the boardwalk that cause a huge crowd where you
>had to squeeze >through to get by.  A young man is slipping through with
>his box in the air >playing fairly loud.  Along comes a cop and from 3
>feet away yells an obscenity >at him and tells him to "shut that piece of
>shit off".  That was completely >uncalled for and unecessary.
>
>Alex, you never know the whole story w/something like that. I'm not saying
>it's the case, but  it wouldn't surprise me if the kid was known to the
>cop, and 
>a regular troublemaker. I'm not trying to make excuses either, but how do you 
>know how many times before, the kid was asked nicely? 

I'm sure he wasn't asked nicely within the prior ten minutes.  It took me ten
minutes to walk ten feet.  Also the cop had just walked out of a mall and 
the kid was walking down the boardwalk.  Also having told the kid before is
no excuse for being rude to everyone else.  If the cop had known the kid I'm
sure he would have used the kids name.  

>
>But I am willing to bet the kid turned it down, didn't he?

Yes he turned it off.  I'm sure he would have also turned it off if he had 
just asked him nicely too.  I'm glad he aske dthe kid to turn down his 
music, but now I have a bad picture of both the kid and the cop.  I think 
the kid and the cops are both jerks.  If I ever run into that cop again, I'll
know he has a serious attitude problem.

>
>Certain people in this world don't respond to please, even from a supposed
>authority figure. When you've been a cop for awhile, you learn to spot the
>one's

Sounds like prejudice to me.  Until he tries please first he won't know.  What
exactly is the clue that allows you to spot the trouble makers?  Race?  Color?
Clothes?  Please tell me what it is.  I'm sure we all want to know.  





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Alex     __O    '86 Dodge Omni GLH Turbo                                    
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