srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha
Dear srI guNa:
I do not believe that you wrote anything inappropriate. Further, it
seems that, if there is a shrill response to what you wrote, it may
stem from folks who paid scant attention to the actual problem, that
the original posting from srI mukundan was flawed:
***********************
Sri Mukundan wrote:
>(2) To get back the grand glory of LORD of seven hills.
*********************
To explicitly opine, as the statement above does, that the grand
glory of tiruvEngaDamudayAn, has somehow been lost, and we in our
infinite wisdom and immense capabilities, can do something to
restore that glory, is both flawed and inconsistent with rAmAnuja
darshanam. So, your post accurately states what needs to be said,
that whatever kainkaryam our Acharyan says is worth purusing, that
the glory of tiruvEngaDamuDaiyAn is unaffected by what we, in this
day and time, mere mortals with clearly substantive deficiencies,
may perceive or not.
Shastram says, of the five states of perumAL as
poorNamada: poorNamidam poorNath poorNam udachyathE
poorNasya poorNamAdAya poorNamEva avashishyathE
And the nilai (state) with the most poorthi, as smt. Sheela Belur
succintly pointed out, is the Archavataram. The six attributes that
define srImannArAyaNa in his para swaroopam (gnyAna bala aishwarya
veerya shakti tEjas) are fully resident in this most magnificent of
archavatarams at tiruvEngaDam.
There is another troubling aspect to this issue. Some bhAgavathas,
in their immense 'enthusiasm', have started labelling this mantram
(Om namO venkatEsAya) as ashTakshari. This is totally
inappropriate, as the only ashTAkshari for rAmanuja sampradayam is
tirumantram. To label anything else as ashTakshari goes against the
spirit of the way shown by swAmy rAmAnuja (There is also a logical
problem with such labelling, since it wont withstand the test of
basic meemamsa, that a word should fulfil both the 'yaugika'
and 'rooDhi' meanings per vyAkaraNa). The other danger such usage
poses is, tomorrow, someone else will come along and say 'Om Namo
subrahmanyAya' is also ashTakshari and a couple of days later will
postulate that 'Om namO gaNapathayE' as ashTakshari.
The solution to all this lies in going back to what that unique gem
(ratnam) in our poorvAchArya-hAram, swAmy mAmunikaL, says in upadEsa
rattinamAlai:
"munnOr mozhinda muRai tappAmal kETTu,
pinOrndu tAm adanaip pESAdE,
tam nenjil tOnrinadE solli,
idu Suddha upadESavaravARRadenbar
mUrKarAvAr"
That we faithfully walk the path shown by the acharyas of the orAN
vazhi, and never worry about engendering new ideas and 'creative'
ways to help 'perumAL'.
Whatever I am stating above is clearly targeted towards opinions
expressed on this list, and simply part of a discussion. These are
mere view points of someone who is very ignorant, and no offense
towards any acharya or bhagavatha is intended or meant, and if any
is perceived, please forgive this neesan.
aDiyEn rAmAnuja dasan,
sridhar
--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "gunsee" <gunsee@xxxx> wrote:
>
> Sri:
> Dear Swamin
> Adiyen wish to clarify few points on my earlier mail , though I
had
> it in mind it was reflected in words :(
> Adiyen could understand the motive behind the Jeeyar's
initiative ,
> and agreed it should be in line with your message too and also as
> Smt.Chitra Madhan put it across when we started writting His nAma
we
> started thinking about Him and His KalyAna gunAs and its really
> wonderful to do so.
>
> So my query was not to question Sri .Tridhandi Chinna Jeeyar swamy
> (for which Adiyen neechan has no gnAnam and Anushtanam , totally
not
> fit as well), my thinking was mainly to fellow bhAghavadAs mind
set
> while writting this nAmA.
>
> Adiyen's apologies at the feet of Alarmel mangai samedha
Thiruvengada
> MudayAn, Sri. Jeeyar swamy and bhAghavAdas for hurting the
feelings
> of SriVaishnavAs.
>
> Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan
> Guna
>
> --- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa
Thatta"
> <acharyatvsr@xxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sriman Guna,
> > The wording in the message is wrong. It should have been "To
> restore the
> > Glory of the Kshettram". Our Lord will never lose His Glory
because
> He is in
> > everything and everything is within Him.
> > Whatever be the motive (it is definitely a noble one if Jeeyar
> Swamiji has
> > initiated this), to write or recite the Lord,s names we should
be
> blessed
> > and it is possible only due to the Grace of the Lord, showered
on
> us due to
> > His Causeless Mercy. No Samsayam is warranted in this case.
> > Adiyen,
> > Ramanuja Dasan.
> >
azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam
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