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SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA;
APPAN THIRUVADIGALE SARANAM


Dear Smt. Gita, Accept my Pranam.

You have expressed your appreciation with choiecest words. It is no wonder that is so; because, it is Baghavat Vishayam.

2. Regarding separate Prapatti after Samasrayanam in Thennacharya sampradhayam.

No such separate exercise in our Sampradhaya. We have submitted ourselves to Acharya;
Hereafter he will lookafter our Athma yatra.


3. Regarding Prapatti. It is our mental condition in accepting Emperuman"s grace and his Further acts in promoting it.


In this connection, Adiyen will like to quote gist of Emperumanar's words. ( This is available In Guruparampara Prabhavam, 6000 padi). Prapannan need not worry for his "deha yatra' ( day today life). It is karmadheenam.(is according to our past karmas.). He need not worrry for his Atma atra ( spiritual life) It is DEivadheenam. Once you have submitted yourself to an Acharya he will take care of your spiritual life, The desire of Prapanna will flourish by the upadesam's
of Acharya.

4. You have referred to the last passage of Adiyen's Posting. If you have pointed out specifically it would have been helpful.

The last passage deals with Prapathi as shown in Srivachanabhooshanam and an anectode inThiruvaimozhi Vyakkyanam 36000 Padi ( an assumed conversation between Emperuman and Namazhvar) Adiyen has given excerpts from Srivachanabhooshanam defining prapathi. Here , It is a mistake on my part to have assumed that text could be understood by all. They are in Manipravalam language, ( mostly tamil); but, present day tamil is different from it. If one is conversant with our sampradhyaic language it would have been easier.

On the otherhand if you mean the anecdote to Thiruvaimozhi 10.8. 9:.

This was given to give an emphasis on the point that it is Emperuman who looks after our spirual welfare and our effort on this part is nothing, as told by Nammzhvar.

Thiruvaimozhi is coming to end and Namazhvar is to enter Vaikuntham fully blessed by Emperuman. Namazhar wondered as to why Emperuman kept him in samsara for a long time.
So he asks Emperuman the reason for his action.
Emperuman replied that "You have agreed to my entry in your mind" Azhvar is not satisfied His further queries are excerpts as avilable in Thiruvaimozhi.

Nam: "Yanotti.. I did not ask you to occcupy me . It is your own act"

Emp: " You were agreeable and accommodated me after I entered."

Nam: " Maruvi.... It is you who gave me the mind to worship you"

Emp: " O.K. As I wished You did not indulge in 'vishayantaram' and base material life



Nam: " Ennai... It is you who destroyed my evil mind"

Emp: " O.K. Anyway, You improved your knowledge on me "

Nam: Kathal Kadal....It is Your beautiful Thirumeni which created in me love towrds you like surge of sea waves




In this fashion, Namazhavar was attributing that Emperuman was the cause for each and every action he did and he did not do anything of his own accord.

In short, Emperuman is the real promoter of spiritual force in us and we need not do things on our own accord in this respect. It may become detrimental to our progress.



Regarding Sattumurai. Adiyen regret, as I am far away from home and not in a position to answer without consulting books.


Wearing of Thiruman. One of the samaskara at the time of Samasryana is "Pundaram". Wearing of Thiruman. Sri. Ramanuja had his Samasrayana under PeriaNambikal at Madhuranthakam Temple. So, it is clear that wearing of Thiruman was in vogue prior to Sri.Ramanuja.

5. Adiyen .... very ordinary person. " A Rasika" Somehow, Emperuman is kind enough to shower his Grace on me. Further, at present I am away from home. far away not in a position to consult authentic records. However, whatever possible, Adiyen will definitely do. There are great scholars who can undertake the task referred to by you. Anything Adiyen enjoy from our granthas, that will be shared among Baghavathas without fail.


Happy to know you are enjoying Amalanathipiran, Ramanuja Nooranthadhi and Upadesaratnamalai


Adiyen Ramanuja dasan T.Parthasarathy

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 vaidhehi_nc wrote :
Sri:
SrimathE RAmAnujAya nama:

Dear Sri Parthasarathy,

Excellent,beautiful,wonderful. My small mind could see certain things only after reading your post. I would be happy if
dEvarIr answers my questions wrt our sampradAyam.

(i)In our sampradAyam,is samAshrayaNam itself prapatti? These are all very subtle topics to grasp(esp prapatti) for me. In my understanding prapatti is a mental state. Can you please tell in simple words? Your last passages didn't get into my head clearly. From my own personal
experience I have realized that no matter how much effort I put
nothing works out. This clearly shows that everything happens only if
HE wishes it happen.

(ii)From when sARRumuRai started?

(iii)Did bhaktAs wear TirumaN prior to RAmAnujA's period? Also my mother used to tell that RAmAnujA was the one who started it(just before he undergoes samAshrayaNam and he meets thAyAr and varadar in
the guise of old couple who ask RAmAnujA to fetch water).

(iv)On behalf of all devotees,I request you to give commentaries on NDP. What ever is convenient that suits your time,can be taught. Your words regarding current generations lacking knowledge in samskrt and tamil applies to me. One of my favorite pasuram is AmalanAdipirAn and
chant it daily knowing the meaning very...superficially. All I
realize is that though it's concise,it looks like punch lines(essence of the vEdAs). In simle words TiruppAN AzhwAr concluded saying that the eyes that had seen Lord Ranganatha will not look at anythingelse.
I am now learning RN and URM through Sri MAV's casette.

AzhwAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam
gita





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