srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha
srImadh varavara munayE namaha
Dear Sri Sadagopan,
I will attempt to answer your questions to the extent of my
knowledge based on Acharyas works.
========================Quote=========================
--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sadagopan Vasudevan
<satakopanv@xxxx> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends:
> I am seeing many versions of this story.
>
> If indeed the stories by Anbil at the link is wrong, and if indeed
many
> others have used the same (fromk 3000 padi and not 6000 padi)
> then why have the other scholars from Thenkalai side not
> protested this at all. (That tell me this may be true)
>
> q1: Even today why do the leaders of Thenkalai not protest this?
====================Unquote=====================================You may want to
go through the lots of books published by
Swami Annangarachariar, Sri Puttur Krishnamachariar Swamy, Sri MA
Venkatakrishnan Swamy and Srivaishnavasri Krishnamachariar swamy. If
you had, then you will not exhibit your ignorance by asking the
above question. This just the right example to "Kinatru Tavalai".
Knowing only one side and exhibiting the ignorance. Sorry this
ignorance is not a Bliss.
========================Quote===================================> q2: Others
from this group have written to me saying that
> Desikan is thenkalai only, but got "hijkacked" by brahminical
> Vaishanvas to be their sole leader about 200 years ago,
> and then started all the conversions.
>
> If you Think logically, Swami Desikan is in almost all the
> temples including srirangam. Everywhere he is Vadakalai only,
> so you have to accept what you see.
>
> What is your pramana for this? that Swami Desikan in Thenkalai ?
======================Unquote===================================
Good. Please note that the Thiruman became synonymous with the Kalai
bEdham at a later date. Also once again I am sorry to say that you
have only exhibited your state that you are not exposed to the
writings of the Thenkalais at all.
Plrase read the recent publications from the Author of Panchajanyam
magazine, Sri Krishnamachariar swamy, title the "Koil Ozhugu- Part
3", in which he clearly proves, along with the court records that
Sri Desikar in Srirangam was adorning only Thenkalai Thiruman and
later, the original thirumEni has be replaced by the
current only with Vadagalai thiruman, puporting the original one to
lost.
Also how many records do you want to prove that Sri Desikar sannidhi
in his avathara sthalam, Thoopul, was indeed Thenkalai and he was
adorning only the thenkalai thiruman in Thoopul, and conveniently
converted to present day Vadagalai thiruman. Sri PBA Swamy has
published numerous articles on this. If you would like to see it,
please do let me know. I have a copy of this article and I can
courier this to you.
And lastly, let me close with one thing, as another member Sri BR
Parthasarathy wrote, during Sri Emberumanar's time, there was only
one thiruman. Needless to say that it is the current day Thenkalai
thiruman. However, there were people with kalai bhEdams in their
mind. One giving highest importance to nirhEtuka kripA and the other
refuting this. This, difference in the due course took the form of
Kalai bhEdham and have evolved into the present day vadagalai and
thenkalai. A standing testimony to this is that almost all the
divyadEsams, which practically adorn a thirumaN,are thenkalai
barring a few, recently converted ones, 10 or 11 vadakalai.
Thirumans.
DEAR MODERATOR: PLEASE APPROVE THESE ANSWERS AS WELL. AS THESE ARE
THE ULTIMATE FACTS.
AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam
adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan
Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh
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