Dear Sri Vishnu, adiyEn's apologies. I did not mean that we should not discuss the topic. What I meant was my concern that we were using the word 'sEshatvam' a little differently in our posts - which I hope I clarified in my last post. Such discussions are most useful for us - at least to raise questions and thereafter seek the answers from qualified scholars. --- Vishnu <vsmvishnu@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > --- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, TCA Venkatesan > <vtca@xxxx> wrote: > > I think we may getting lost in the words here. > > Certainly no! If we do not try to understand, why should > we disucss:-) You are right. Truly, there is no ahankAram in any of the service we do for Him. As I explained before, my understanding of sAttvika ahankAram is that it is not really 'aham' kAram. It is a matter of pride in the greatness of the Lord and His bhAgavatas and nothing to do with our self. For example, Nammazhvar says 'naNugiNam nAmE', using 'nAm'. However, it is not used in the sense of his achieving anything. Instead, he is pointing out that the great Lord as explained in the first verse of Thiruvaymozhi has allowed him to come near Him. So, this 'nAm' is actually a celebration of the Lord's saulabhyam, saushIlyam and vAtsalyam. > Thus, there is no > ahankAram in perfect SEshatvam, as we remain for Him as > He wishes. adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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