Re: [compost_tea] Re: Container growing with ACT/compost material

From: butch ragland <wilddog_202_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:38:18 -0800 (PST)
This is very true but I'm not doing what you say and
if I did carry it to that length then it may be a
problem. And that problem should be addressed when
I/we do it. Your argurment says "carried to its
logical conclusion" but I haven't gone to the logical
conclusion and the problem you invision requires me or
others to go to the end. I'm taking a small quanity
out of the middle of this old growth area. It will
recover and probably recover the biology in 2 years or
less. In the mean time I've started another area that
needs the biology from the older area. Every thing I'm
doing is sustaninable in both area's.

Please understand that I share your concern and would
not damage an old growth area nor would I recommend it
to anyone. If everyone in the state of Indiana took a
few shovels full of soil from older wooded area's just
to get the biology and moved it to another area then
there would be a net increase in good biology not a
loss. If we took it all there still may be a net
increase because we would increase the biology in a
brewer and spread it around.

Again I understand your concern but I don't think it
applies.

--- pierre charles crozat <pccrozat_at_fastmail.fm>
wrote:

>
> yes, that is Lavoisier's concept. nothing is ever
> lost globally. it
> works for compost, garbage dumps, oil spills...
>
> but here, if you look at things from the old grove
> point of view
> there is something lost: soil. and i think that if
> the old grove
> could give its opinion it would say it is a
> probleme.
>
> we can t justify our actions just because we are a
> marginal group
> that want to do great things with a great product
> (ie ACT). imagine
> this concept takes off and ACT starts being made at
> a larger scale
> and we use compost made from old grove...bye bye
> forest...not very
> sustainable.
>
> aren t we a group of people who are more aware that
> others about
> such issues?
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, butch ragland
> <wilddog_202_at_y...>
> wrote:
> > I'm only moving compost from one spot to another
> not
> > degrading it. Nothing lost.
> >
> > --- pierre charles crozat <pccrozat_at_f...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > from a sustainable point of view I wonder if
> making
> > > compost from
> > > material coming from an old grove is acceptable.
> i
> > > understand the
> > > value of it (re Caradang) but i wonder if we can
> > > afford to do such
> > > things and advertise that we do them with
> > > sustainability as an
> > > objective.
> > >
> > > > Compost from yard debri, kitchen scraps
> layered
> > > with
> > > > small twigs and soil from a very old wooded
> area.
> > > The
> > > > wooded area may have been wooded since the
> > > beginning
> > > > of time.
> > >
> > >
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=====
Butch Ragland
Conflict is as addictive as
cocaine, alcohol, cigarettes,etc
I'm sorry to report that
cooperation is not


           
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