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Re: What is to be done?



ENOUGH!!
I request that everyone please stop all of these threads.  As someone else pointed out, in a most eloquent matter, this list is comprised of people with different nationalities, religious belief systems, and political viewpoints and we should all respect those differences and keep our own perspectives to ourselves rather than allow what was an informative disussion to continue to devolve into name calling and political fencing.  Even those people asking for this to stop can not seem to resist throwing their two cents in in the last line or two of their post, just furthering the descent.

I have seem views I agree with and those I don't expressed.  But the real point is that this is not the place for these ideas!!  So, please, continue to post relevant information or keep your political/religious/patriotic comments to yourselves!!

Daryl Maxwell

-----Original Message-----
From: Polly Kate Bradshaw [mailto:pbradshaw27@HOME.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:05 PM
To: ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
Subject: Re: What is to be done?


I'm very sorry to keep us off topic, but I have to respond to this EVIL post. Being that this fellow is from MI (the hotbed of American Islamic fundamentalism and home to a large pro-terrorist political constituency), I suppose his anti-U.S./ anti-Israel,  psycho-babel is understandable, though no less disturbing. Habitual victims of Arab terror (to the tune of 45 attacks a day), Israel has not taken one misstep in their dealings with the Arabs but in their grossly irresponsible restraint and blind benevolence. Seems some continue to accept the Arab worlds practice of vilifying their victims. I thought you people would go into hiding following yesterdays horror. Very Concerned, Polly

P.S. - I will make certain that the administration at Northern Michigan University view your post.

----- Original Message -----

From: Marcus Robyns <mailto:mrobyns@NMU.EDU>
To: ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU <mailto:ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:10 PM
Subject: What is to be done?

In response to this terrible tragedy, the citizens of the United States must not give in to the jingoistic nationalism offered by the media and many on this list.  Rather than strike out with more violence and death, the citizens of the United States must reach out for calm and reflection.  We must take stock of who we are and understand the consequences of our own terrible actions in the world.

We must confront the fact that we, and I emphasize WE, must accept a share of the responsibility for this horrendous act.  Look, folks - the United States has historically provided support and training for many of these terrorists groups in the name of "national security;" we have maintained (and continue to maintain) terribly oppressive and violent dictatorships in the interest of corporate profit and greed; we support and cuddle the criminal regime in Israel that perpetuates genocide; we provide arms and money to right-wing death squads in Latin America that massacre indigenous peoples who stand up to multi-national corporations destroying their lands; we actively support efforts by multi-national corporations and their client states in crushing labor movements that attempt to ameliorate the worst aspects of industrial capitalism; and we arrogantly abrogate international treaties that attempt to save our environment, end nuclear proliferation, and bring international criminals to justice.

Is it any wonder that much of the rest of the world hates us?  Surprise! We are not the shining beacon of "freedom and democracy" that our propaganda and myth makers want us to believe.  Real justice and peace will only come if we as a people take honest stock of ourselves and hold ourselves accountable for our actions.

We must honor the memory of our fallen comrades and rise above this terrible evil.  If we are as strong a people as President Bush's handlers claim we are, then no greater time has come for an honest introspection that can change ourselves and the world.


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Assistant Professor / University Archivist
Northern Michigan University                    mrobyns@nmu.edu
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