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Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:

Dear Sri Kasturi Rangan and others,

I think my original post was loosely put together
and was therefore likely unclear.

I wasn't recommending or suggesting that nitya karmas
be given up.

Clearly the incident about Bhattar shows that he was
doing his nitya karmas.

And while Pillai Lokacharyar added the nitya karmas
to the sarva pApa, as far as my knowledge of his
writings goes, I don't think he has recommended that
they be given up. Learned bhAgavats may correct me
on these.

However, what I was driving at was this:

1. What was the pramANam for Sri Ramachandran's
statement that sandhya vandanam alone cannot be
given up while all other nitya karmas can be 
given up. He was even suggesting that worship can
be given up. It is my understanding that, even those
who stress that the nitya karmas are to be followed
without question, state that all nitya karmas be
performed and not just one.

I can understand a practical logic that the sandhya 
is one of the simplest rituals to perform at home 
needing no special upakaranas, and giving it up means
you have practically given up everything. Therefore,
the injunction 'don't give it up'. But from the post 
it sounded like the sastras themselves give it a 
special status. That was the clarification I was 
seeking.

It also raises the question as what to do if pressed
for time between sandhya and another service - for eg, 
thiruvArAdhanam.

2. Thennacharyas don't give it the special status
that Sri Ramachandran was driving at. That was
the point I wanted to make. 6000padi records
that Bhattar said "bhagavad kainkarya niratharukku
sandhyAvandana kaivalya dOsham vArAdhu". Agreed,
that most of us don't qualify to that state, but
we need to be aware of this. 6000padi also states
that to perform nitya karmas while missing bhagavad
anubhavam is against the nature of the soul.

3. The post also suggested that there are many 
personal benefits that one gets by doing the 
sandhya. From the Thennacharya perspective, these
may be incidental but not crux to the matter. The
nitya karmas are to be done only as kainkaryam to
the Lord. Not for personal gains.

Hope this clarifies adiyEn's earlier post.

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan


--- amshuman_k <amshuman_k@xxxx> wrote:
> Dear Sri Venkatesan,
> Kindly clarify whether the life incident of bhattar is
> quoted as an 
> injunction to TK VaishNavas for the non-performance of
> sandhya?
> Regular performance of nityakarmas are typically ordained
> by dharma 
> sUtras of one's vedic affiliation (it may appear in grhya
> sutras in 
> some cases; smrti digests elaborate the dharma sUtras).
> 
> From my limited understanding rAmAnujAchArya never
> attempted to 
> tamper the dharma sUtras, veda pramANas and the
> associated 
> paraphernalia (and even sanctions sacrifice of goat in
> the context 
> of yAgas in his gIta bhAshya).
> 
> If I am right, the ashtAdasha bheda nirNaya discusses
> about 
> nithyakarmas - "whether an evolved sould will go to hell
> if he 
> doesn't perform them": yes -> vadakalai; no -> thenkalai,
> however 
> the evolved soul should continue to do them as an example
> for others.
> This is a non question for unevolved souls!
> 
> Accept my apologies if I've commited any mistakes or was
> offensive.
> 
> Regards,
> Kasturi Rangan 
> 


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