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Respected Srivaishnavas,
Regarding perceived errors in recitation of Divya
Prabandham, we are rightly reassured with citation of,

Eng'ane sollilum inbam
payakkume'[Tiruva'imozhi-7-9-11].
I'du Muppatta'ra'yiram has an anecdote. During a
recitation by Araiyars in Srirangam, some desciples
commented on what they thought incorrect chanting. Sri
Parasara Bhattar told them,
"Tangal' anba'rat tamdusol valatta'l talait talai
sirandu pu'sippa
[Tiruva'imozhi 9-2-8]. 
[They chanted with their devotion ACCORDING TO THEIR
ABILITY TO EXPRESS]
Sri Bhattar stressed on the word TAMADU SOL
VALAM[their capacity to express] to allow for
individual variations.
I'd'u also says that the first line in Tiruva'imozhi
7-2-2 
En tirumagal' ser ma'rbane ennum
Ennudai a'viye ennum
[She says He has Lakshmi in His heart; she says He is
her very life]
is usually recited with pauses after ennum[will say];
once, it was recited without pause after ma'rbane,
making the meaning as
"She says He who has Lakshmi in His heart is her very
life"
This elision is mentioned in I'du with approval.
The great Prativadi Bhayankaram Annangaracharya Swami
has written that the line in Periyazhwar Tirumozhi
4-9-2,
"Ennadiyar adu seyya'r seida're'l nandru seida'r enbar
po'lum" 
[Presumably He will say, my devotees will not do like
that; but if they did so, they would have done the
right]
can be split as
"Ennadi? ya'r adu seyya'r?
[So what? Who will not do so?]
Adiyen,TCASrinivasaramanujan 
Dr.Kilambi Ramakrishna Ramanuja Dasan

vimalkumar ranganathan wrote:

> Respected Adiyaars,
>
> I have a huge doubt.
Even though tamil 
is my mother tongue, I still have issues in
understanding the meanings 
of most of the Prabandhams. Well, if understanding the
basic, flat 
meaning is itself a problem as such, what about the
subtle, deep, 
philosophical truth hidden in each verse of the
Prabandham??
>
> How should one chant
the Prabandham?? Is 
it ok, if he chants it without knowing the meaning as
such. And what 
about pronunciation mistakes?? Am I right if I say
that it is an offense 
if we make mistakes when we chant the pasurams, as it
is tantamount to 
insulting the Azhwars??

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> 1. Re: [SriRangaSri] Chanting of the
> Prabandham the best possible way
> From: "Rama Krishna K"
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> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:34:21 +0530
> From: "Rama Krishna K"
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> Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] Chanting of the
> Prabandham the best possible way
> 
> Priya Bhagawatas,
> We are all tiniest of the kids and remain so
> throughout our life in front of Lord
> Srimannarayana and Nityasoori brundam. Just as a
> mother not only excuses her child but enjoys its
> talking with loss of clarity, grammar,
> pronunciation etc., Perumal and His parivaaram enjoy
> our chanting and excuse us for our mistakes while
> chanting the Divya Prabandham or any stothram; but
> it is
> our duty to ask for the apologies at the end for
> our ignorance like "Mantraheenam, kriya heenam
> Bhaktiheenam Janardhana.................and
> Yadakshara padabrahstam maatra heenantu yadbhaveth
> tatsarvam kshamya ta devam naarayana namostutey." 
> But from time to time we also should put some
> efforts to correct ourselves slowly. Thus instead
> of not chanting at all on the pretext of
> possible errors, it is better to continue chanting
> and ask for apologies at the end, as nobody what
> ever experienced one may be cannot guarantee 100%
> accuracy in chanting
> 
> Jai Srimannarayana
> 
> Dr.Kilambi Ramakrishna Ramanuja Dasan
> 
> vimalkumar ranganathan wrote:
> 
> > Respected Adiyaars,
> >
> > I have a huge doubt.
> Even though tamil is my mother tongue, I still have
> issues in understanding the meanings of most of the
> Prabandhams. Well, if understanding the basic, flat
> meaning is itself a problem as such, what about the
> subtle, deep, philosophical truth hidden in each
> verse of the Prabandham??
> >
> > How should one chant
> the Prabandham?? Is it ok, if he chants it without
> knowing the meaning as such. And what about
> pronunciation mistakes?? Am I right if I say that it
> is an offense if we make mistakes when we chant the
> pasurams, as it is tantamount to insulting the
> Azhwars??
> >
> > Sometimes, I do get the
> meaning, but still am prone to making errors. For
> example, thanks to Sri Madhavakkannan, I now know
> the meaning of "Thiruppallandu", but still I have
> confusions in the last word of each paragraph, I
> donno when to say "Pallandu KURUVANE" or "Pallandu
> KURUDHUME" or "Pallandu KURUMINE". Is it an offense
> when I mix and match them??
> >
> > Sometimes, when I chant
> the Pasurams, my mind just wanders, thinking of very
> very trivial mundane things, thinking of anything
> but Perumal. Am I a sinner??
> >
> > I request the elders
> and the cognizant in the list to kindly address my
> queries.
> >
> > AzhwAr EmperumanAr Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Saranam.
> >
> > Dasan,
> >
> > Kidambi Soundararajan.
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T. C. A Srinivasaramanujan
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