RE: [compost_tea] dirty filters

From: ray gore <xrg22000_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:10:17 -0700 (PDT)

Hey Mike-
Great ideas, but few people commenting on here lately.
Put me down for anything that pushes AACT forward. I
invite anyone who "really" gives a hoot about AACT to
attend the October soils class at SFI if there is
still room. We can discuss AACT and tour the lab and
see just what goes on with our samples and discuss
brewing methods and tour some breweries?RayG
--- Mike Bosko <mjbosko_at_jmtsystems.com> wrote:
> About the only way we can tell whether a given
> strainer works, with a given
> amount of tea, ... and as much as it kills me to
> read it in other replies
> ... its to have a batch of tea tested before, then
> after straining, and then
> calculate the differences in the numbers. Find out
> what gets filtered out
> using a given filtering method. Then try others
> using the same experiment.
>
> I hate beating this to death, but I really think
> we're all just spinning our
> wheels here with unknowns, and under the masses of
> variables, until we get
> some type of standardized tests going here. There
> are a lot of items to
> test, and we'll just keep finding more. And really
> nothing is going to get
> resolved, or better --gained, if we keep up this
> guess work and continue to
> shuffle standardized tests under the carpet.
>
> I'm just as guilty -all I'm doing is blowing my horn
> here really - no
> action. But as a group, we need to start somewhere.
> How about for an easy
> start, we find the best container design for brewing
> by using several
> brewers of different sizes, shapes, on the same day,
> using the same
> ingredients, etc - and then test. Thats an easy
> start. Then, find a good
> recipe that works well in several different types of
> machines?
>
> I'm just throwing junk into the air here in hopes of
> getting my point
> across, or ... just blowing my horn. Maybe a better
> example, however, would
> be this. What if we were to send samples in to SFI
> and we knew (not true,
> but follow me here) that all they did was sniff one
> sample and predict what
> the numbers were for you based on experienced
> guesses? We KNOW this is NOT
> the way they do it, but we wouldn't have a whole lot
> of trust in this method
> if they did, right? I would imagine that they would
> run tests under as
> uniform an environment as possible, for each test,
> using similar methods -
> to give apples-apples accurate results.
>
> Your AACT customers (playgrounds, fruit clubs, golf
> courses, ball fields,
> residental/commercial landscaping, etc) should
> expect nothing less than that
> from the AACT businesses. So what, you test your
> teas after they are brewed
> and get great results. At this time, we don't know
> really what happens
> after we strain them through Q pantyhose, filter
> them through our sized
> mesh, pump them through a given pump, spray them
> through a given nozzle,
> pound them under given pressures. Shouldn't we know
> these results???
> Shouldn't we be enhancing on the results???
>
> I'm such a pain in the AACT, I know. =)
>
> Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ray gore [mailto:xrg22000_at_yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:26 PM
> To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [compost_tea] dirty filters
>
>
> I dont know about the learning too much part due
> to
> the inconsistencies of tea machines lately I think
> that its good to start at the basics and work it
> all
> out till everyone is up to speed with no
> confusion.
> The paint strainers at Home Depot has been a great
> filter for some people. The airless five gallon
> bucket
> strainers for about a buck. Any other suggestions
> for
> straining from anyone, then maybe we can move on
> to
> another subject?RayG
> --- Jeff Lowenfels <jeff_at_gardener.com> wrote:
> > I agree with Bob up to the sales pitch at the
> > end...it is not Sunday Bob! You promised!
> >
> > Obviously, however, if you are using drip
> systems
> > and the like you do need to filter out
> particles.
> > Why don't you simply spray the plants and soil
> > instead of relying on the drip systems?
> > Anyhow, I am learning way too much about mesh
> and
> > microns. I say a stretched out size Q panty
> hose
> > fits a five gallon bucket and works as a great
> > filter without taking out too much of the good
> > stuff!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jeff
>
>
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