RE: [compost_tea] Re: Soak in a Bucket CT NO NO NO

From: Robert Norsen <bnbrew_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 22:23:58 -0700 (PDT)

Mike and Kirk - Your treatment of "Manure in a bucket tea" does not consider the potential danger to the entire Aerobic compost TEA development.
 
Scenario - church pot luck serves a great salad. x members subcome to E-coli. E-Coli takes a kids life and another kids liver. Gardener is suspect cause. E-coli is taced to "Compost TEA" that was used to water the lettuce. Is the press going to clearly explain the exact nature of the compost tea and that it is one kind or another and if they did, would the publice carry the message to the market place and select AIR BREWED COMPOST TEA treated produce to buy ? ( ABCT)
 
Not likely. 10 years of Elaines work is down the tube. My brewers would never get sold. Good Bye friends of this list. We are history
 
After your messages I realize the most important thing we must do is fight like hell to eliminate all use of and association of compost tea from anarobic liquid products Inspite of mixed results for eons it is a hazard that needs to go away. Aeration is not expensive. What is called TEA is on the shelf at reputable nurseries. Sealed in bottles. The high profit product of a giant municiple composting company. Is there any test data to prove it has value, is alive and is safe? Further we need to improve assurance that what is being brewed by all of us and our customers and farmers are truely aerobic.
 
If we allow the easy acceptance of hazargous or ineffective products to be on the market or brewed at home and called by a common name - CT - we risk the entire program. The better health. The conservation of soil and the land. The rivers and lakes. The ecology. The improved farms. The strawberrys, bananas,the oaks and palm trees.
 
When compost tea includes a broad range of liquids some of which can be hazardous then the USDA has no choice but to say treat it like raw manure. .
 
And you guys? I guess they would be hiring at Montasanto. From your resume you could leave out any mention of your work with ABCT. Bob
 
PS I hope I have worded this in a way to start some useful thought. Kirk and Mike, you have devoted much to this list. I respect you. I was reading your messages calmly but thought after.---- Having a common look alike name and really very similar looking liquid, one of which can be hazardous is a problem that could take a big bite from every ass in this program. Government agencies are obligated to eliminate this risk. A broad ban on CT will reduce our already micro freeboard Wonderful as ABCT is, watching Elaine and others in this program, I know this is program is still on a hill, pushing hard, up. Jeff and Wayne have moved Anchorage to the point that it is locally on a level, well accepted CT is being used and paid for at true value. It makes the CT business possible. I think there is a lesson there. Get it right, then In word, PREVAIL Bob
 


Mike Bosko <mjbosko_at_jmtsystems.com> wrote:



Mike recalls "Rodale's Organic Gardening Magazine...always speaking of the
'soak in the bucket' (anaerobic) method." Are you surprised? He thinks
this is bad. I don't.



Hey Kirk, chill.

 

I don’t recall saying anything about it being “bad”.
 It is anaerobic, is it not? Never said that was bad tho – just that it is what is often preached in the magazine. I believe I said something to the matter of suggesting someone write an article regarding AACT; The actively aerated alternative. Adding food to the compost tea, aerating it to help grow even more anaerobic microbes – In my opinion it does seem to be the better alternative –you get more good stuff, from the same bucket.

 

I read the magazine, and still practice the bucket method, but was excited to hear about growing even more ‘good stuff’ in the tea using the AACT methods. I truly think that the readers of OG would be very interested in learning about AACT as an alternative to the ‘bucket tea’ that I had mentioned.

 

Did you happen to read further into my message? I question everything. I try to make a stand for the common guy out here, not wanting to spend a bunch of cash on making teas, wanting it to researched to make it more simple and then, in turn, to get it in use more often. That goes for Compost-anything.

 

-Mike

 

 

 

 


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